My take on the Tate-Holm debacle.

[Anderson Silva-esque]

There could be a few explanations for this but I'm thinking objectively to come up with the most plausible one.


Holm turned down the Cyborg fight because she was obviously receiving good news from the UFC about a possible title shot, whether or not Tate knew that they were in talks remains to be seen but I personally believe that she did know.


There's no way to spin this where you change the FACTS, Nunes is a far easier fight for Tate than Holm, Tate was probably very confident of beating Nunes due to her 5 minute gas tank, nothing wrong with that I suppose.

I've been looking through the MMA community on twitter and most people tend to share my beliefs, Tate was much more confident in beating Nunes than she was of being able to beat Holm in a rematch.

Holm got finished brutally in a boxing match and avenged the loss in her very next fight, Miesha knows this.


My problem is, Holm campaigned for Tate specifically because Tate was the toughest challenge other than Rousey who Holm already slaughtered, Tate did not do the same, she could have even asked for Zingano to try and avenge a loss, sure Zingano is coming off a loss but it was to Ronda who took care of Tate twice with no problems, let us not forget Zingano has stoppage wins over Nunes AND Tate, why does she not want to get that L back?

Whether Holm deserves it or not is irrelevant, the fight game isn't about what you deserve.

EDIT: another reason Tate said no to Holm could be that she knows Holm is popular to the casual fans and Tate is going to get paid a decent amount of money for UFC 200, Holm vs. Tate II could create another payday for her down the line.

 

[ortizgnp]

Caraway is laughing at all of us.

 

[mmmjojo]

I think people are underestimating Nunes. Tate was on the verge of losing her fight to Holm before the subsequent choke. I really think that Tate is going to come in thinking she can test her gas tank by going for TDs but is gonna get dropped and finished going for one.

 

[Cheapshart]

Miesha is the champ. Shots at the champ should be earned with wins, not gifted based on who some nerd thinks is the tougher fight.

Tate just beat Holm and Zingano is coming off one of the most pathetic defeats I've ever seen.

Nunes is the best and fairest choice. A rare fight made for sporting rather than financial reasons.

 

[mikehunt]

Caraway is laughing at all of us.

 

[Anderson Silva-esque]

Miesha is the champ. Shots at the champ should be earned with wins, not gifted based on who some nerd thinks is the tougher fight.

Tate just beat Holm and Zingano is coming off one of the most pathetic defeats I've ever seen.

Nunes is the best and fairest choice. The sporting choice.

Zingano has stoppage wins over both of them, Rousey makes everybody except Holly look pathetic.

 

[RemyR]

Honestly I'm glad there's no rematch. Getting real sick of all these immediate rematches for no reason. The first fight ended cleanly and without controversy, why the fuck should they fight again? Dana is turning into fucking Don King with his match making.

 

[mjmj]

So you made a new thread so everyone could see your opinion, rather than reply in the other multiple threads in progress?

LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!

 

[KazDibiase]

How is Nunes an easier fight for Miesha? I get the gas tank thing but really what else?

 

[Hoist Gracie]

"Thread discussing this topic is 10+ pages long? Better start another one."

 

[Ceez]

Doesn't even matter at this point. Just hate the fighters getting blamed for shit when it's really the UFC and their dickery behind closed doors. Same shit going on with Khabib/Cowboy..

 

[Anderson Silva-esque]

How is Nunes an easier fight for Miesha? I get the gas tank thing but really what else?

Nunes will gas after a round of LnP. That's an easy fight for everybody in the top 5 as long as it's a 5 round fight.

 

[Dutch Rudder]

I think Nunes beats Tate honestly....they are pretty much the same talent level, but Nunes has a few more ways to win.
Tate is not really all that good.

 

[Mau]

No one took you seriously in the original thread, now you're starting this one?

Shut up.

 

[Milgrim]

The real debacle is the constant immediate rematches. This isn't one of them. If Meisha is the one that nixed the rematch, I say, thanks, Cupcake!

 

[BigMuffler]

There are no FACTS here, just opinions based on ever-shifting perceptions.

I remember when people were just as sure DC was a less worthy challenger for Jones than a Gus rematch. Then DC beat up Gustuffson STANDING.

If Nunes knocks out Miesha or later stomps Holly when they fight, what will you say then?

 

[dickcheney]

All I need to know about this thread is that picture you posted. No need to read anything, you're clearly jealous of caraway so you say he likes it in the ass?

First of all, nothing wrong with ass play, but more likely, it's not like caraway is rich , so he's prob a nice guy with a nice hog to satisfy miesha, and that threatens you

 

[Cheapshart]

Zingano has stoppage wins over both of them, Rousey makes everybody except Holly look pathetic.

Not relevant while she's sitting on a loss. I'm not disputing that Cat's a good fighter. But if she wants to fight the champ, she should have to beat Pena (at the very least) first. Ditto Holly.

 

[PokerMage]

about the only fact you have right is Holly turned down the Cyborg fight.

So you make a veiled hate thread on duckers yet only prove Holly ducked.

Hmm someone slept thru logic classes.

 

[Anderson Silva-esque]

All I need to know about this thread is that picture you posted. No need to read anything, you're clearly jealous of caraway so you say he likes it in the ass?

First of all, nothing wrong with ass play, but more likely, it's not like caraway is rich , so he's prob a nice guy with a nice hog to satisfy miesha, and that threatens you

I didn't even make the picture, trololololol.

Why would I care if he's dating somebody with breast implants and a shit ton of cosmetic surgery???