Does anyone else have this? On the one hand: I'm such a stand-up fan boy. I love knock outs, footwork and traditional wars... it seems so much more like idealised fighting to me. Wrestling is such a good tool for anti-fighting. The cage and the scoring system seem to favour wrestling which encourages this lack of damage-trade (for lack of a better phrase.) It's harder to appreciate grappling for me as it looks less cool and requires more of a keen eye to acknowledge it's nuances. Again finally, I just love see punches and kicks. On the other hand: Wrestling is a crucial part of mma. The knowledge Base is a fundamental part of fighting (grappling aspect) because of the close-quarters nature of unarmed combat. Some of the best and most exciting fighters have wrestling bases. The discipline required to excel in wrestling has produced some of the most exceptional athletes and fighters in history. It is the oldest combat sport in the world's that's still relevant in our society. This thread isn't really a moral one, nor necessarily a factual one. I was just wondering how many Sherdoggers have this contradictory philosophy as a fight fan.