International Muslim man murdered in French Mosque.

[KnightTemplar]

I never said anything about genetics so idk what you got that idea from. I'm not saying he's motivated by bigotry solely because he's a Serb, what an absurd reading. Obviously the primary evidence for that is that he stabbed a worshipper in the mosque.

Again, your own words,

"Him being a Serb is more likely to be the explanation here".

You're racist against Serbians. Stop being a coward and own it.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Reprehensible murder, but the Bosnian Serbs have a history of committing ethnic cleansing and violence against their Muslim Bosniak neighbors, so perhaps that could explain his dislike of Muslims. It could have been due to geopolitical reasons, who knows.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Serbs and Muslims hate each other for 1000 years.
Both did unspeakable things to the other.
life in the balkans eh

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Serbs and Muslims hate each other for 1000 years.
Both did unspeakable things to the other.
life in the balkans eh

Sure, but I think the Bosniaks got the shit end of the stick there with the immense amount of lives lost due to the ethnic cleansings.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Sure, but I think the Bosniaks got the shit end of the stick there with the immense amount of lives lost due to the ethnic cleansings.

look back a few hundred years, the ottoman conquest, it's a different picture.

 

[azerty]

uptade: the guy gave himself up in Italy

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

look back a few hundred years, the ottoman conquest, it's a different picture.

Touche. I was thinking about the Bosniaks, and not Muslims as a whole. Indeed, the Ottomans conquered the Balkans, and forcibly converted the Slavs to Islam, and treated the Christian Croats and Serbs as dhimmis.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Touche. I was thinking about the Bosniaks, and not Muslims as a whole. Indeed, the Ottomans conquered the Balkans, and forcibly converted the Slavs to Islam, and treated the Christian Croats and Serbs as dhimmis.

Yes, this type of attack is very different from a syrian attacking a frenchman in paris, or a frenchman attacking a syrian in paris these days. sure, at first glance is religious/ethnic hatred, but with the serbs and balkan muslims it's a hatred that includes themes like sovereignty, access to historical land, mutual ethnic cleansings, conquest, you name it, running across the better part of 1000 years.

these two would not have been friends if they met in the Maldives, or Antarctica.

There's even (racist) memes about it.

 

[Cole train]

Comes in like few days later after i posted balkans hate each other in another thread

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Yes, this type of attack is very different from a syrian attacking a frenchman in paris, or a frenchman attacking a syrian in paris these days. sure, at first glance is religious/ethnic hatred, but with the serbs and balkan muslims it's a hatred that includes themes like sovereignty, access to historical land, mutual ethnic cleansings, conquest, you name it, running across the better part of 1000 years.

these two would not have been friends if they met in the Maldives, or Antarctica.

There's even (racist) memes about it.

I agree. In a post above your OP, I made similar comments to yours.

 

[Islam Imamate]

And your unwillingness to concede that bigotry may have it's starting point in a reaction to Islamic terrorist attacks is deeply telling of your own flaws.

Telling how exactly? Because I think it's perfectly logical to assume that a lunatic who would randomly kill a Muslim guy is pathologically bigoted, wouldn't you agree?

I never said Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan, Nice etc justified this killing. Nothing justifies the murder of an innocent man. Whatever his race, creed or religion. Something I have stated more than once in this Thread. I did say that previous Islamic terror attacks, who's innocent victims number in the hundreds in France alone, may provide an explanation as to why the murderer was able to reach a point where he could rationalise stabbing an innocent man to death.

Which to be clear is based on absolutely nothing.

And I stand by that. Frankly, it's rather more logical than your, "But, muh Serbians!" theory.

It's not, you're just projecting your own feelings onto the guy.

Again, your own words,

"Him being a Serb is more likely to be the explanation here".

You're racist against Serbians. Stop being a coward and own it.

It's cute to see you get in touch with your social justice side after all this time.

 

[Croo67]

Mental health incident. Anyone saying otherwise is a fascist and an incel.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

And y'all need to get your eyesight checked, if you think that accurately represents the majority of responses in this thread. The majority of posters have condemned the victim's murder without reservation. There have been a few outliers, but you get that in any thread.

Did I say it was directed at everyone? No. The people who reacted like that know who they are and I'm under no obligation to coddle their feelings.

Why so defensive?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Mmmm Serbia got ocupied by the muslim Ottoman empire for 500 years up to as recent as 1880. Muslims in Bosnia are people who switched to the occupiers religion and recived financial benefits for it. Osmans took serbian childreen from their family to use them as soldiers amongst other things. They occupied the teritory trough force and war. If you converted to their religion you don't pay taxes.

Comment on the behaviour of muslims here during those 500 years please.

"As recent as 1880"

In other words, completely irrelevant to the incident in the OP or the pogroms of the 1990s.

 

[Confucamus]

Guy was praying peacefully and was murdered. This is the uglier side of religious fanaticism at play and it's sad to watch, no matter the direction it's pointed in. This guy did not deserve that at all. Doesn't matter what's been done in the name of Islam in the past. He was peacefully living his life.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

"As recent as 1880"

In other words, completely irrelevant to the incident in the OP or the pogroms of the 1990s.

Not everybody's an american with limited historical breadth. There's coffee shops in Europe older than America. It's how history works here. What happened in the 19th century is absolutely still relevant here. Fuck's sake, people are referencing the Crimean war when talking about the current war in Ukraine.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Not everybody's an american with limited historical breadth. There's coffee shops in Europe older than America. It's how history works here. What happened in the 19th century is absolutely still relevant here. Fuck's sake, people are referencing the Crimean war when talking about the current war in Ukraine.

I don't doubt people feel that way but if you're a Serb stabbing a random Malian man in 2025 because of the what the Ottomans did in 1880 then you're an unhinged lunatic.

 

[Cole train]

"As recent as 1880"

In other words, completely irrelevant to the incident in the OP or the pogroms of the 1990s.

As recent as WW2 really, plenty of massacres between serbs and bosnians then. You will get a phonebook if you chatgp it

Then came the 90s and same shit again.

Theres a joke that every balkans father is a war criminal and thats really seemed to be true for a time

 

[Soggust]

What religion are Serbs?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I don't doubt people feel that way

They do. You just can't conceptualize it.

but if you're a Serb stabbing a random Malian man in 2025 because of the what the Ottomans did in 1880 then you're an unhinged lunatic.

yeah, people that stab people to death are generally unhinged.