Mounted triangle-they always slip out...

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by ITRDC5, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. ITRDC5

    ITRDC5 Orange Belt

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    Hi guys,

    Been attempting this technique for a bit ,landed a few but the vast majority of the time they slip out through the bottom and scramble.

    Any tips on securing this sub a bit better?


    Many thanks

    ITR
     
  2. Einarr

    Einarr Banned Banned

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    This is my second highest percentage submission after the armbar from mount, probably 30% of my submissions come from the mounted triangle. First you want to be in a fairly high mount, especially one where you can put most of your weight on their chest - I like S-mount best personally. IMO the most important detail to stop them slipping out is to elevate head (not just when finishing), this reduces shoulder mobility massively and allows more space for your leg to slide through. Pin the arm you want on the outside of the triangle to the mat and use it to base on or if they're T-Rexing pin it to their body, you need more leg mobility for the first option but I personally find it's harder for them to push their arm through and start escaping. Try to finish the submission from the top, don't roll to your back unless you have to - the mounted triangle is harder to finish than the triangle from guard but it's easier to escape during the transition to your guard than at any other point get your knees together and elevate the head, if your still not choking them you need to tighten up more and maybe change your angle slightly, if you're still not choking them then use the position to attack the inside arm with pushing armbars, Kimuras and easiest of all the gooseneck wristlock. Finally, take your time once you've locked the triangle in - this isn't a submission that needs to be rushed, when you're rushing to finish you're usually going to be giving your opponent more mistakes to capitalize on than if you're being slow and methodical about it. So 1) stay heavy 2) elevate the head 3) immobilize the outside arm 4) don't give up top position if it isn't working 5) don't rush it.
     
  3. ITRDC5

    ITRDC5 Orange Belt

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    Thank you very much for your reply Einarr, head elevation is something I dont think I have been doing enough.
    Regarding pinning the arm, that is an awesome tip that I will try aswell. The struggle I seem to having is when I go to finish the triangle withe my second leg- locking it up they often slip out.

    Its strange I used to hate triangles because I couldnt do any of them , now Ive been trying them fromevery position. Once I get better at this Im going to try an inverted one from bottom sidemount :)

    Thanks again
     
  4. MindRipper

    MindRipper Yellow Belt

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    Great tips. Head Elevation and S mount are great tips. When this was taught to me along with most techniques it was described like Slow Jitsu, slowly and methodically apply the submission.
     
  5. BJJ_Rage

    BJJ_Rage Gold Belt

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    If you go for it without a sufficiently high mount you're taking pressure off your opponent as you move up into position, giving them the opportunity to escape. Lifting the head removes 1 point of leverage they have on the mat to escape. If you can't lock it up enough to get the choke which is pretty common especially on a larger opponent you can go for an americana on the arm thats inside the choke. Usually I just go straight to the americana as it's just easier.
     

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