Mother of Ahed Tamimi: Unexpected support for daughter partially the result of form of racism

[Islam Imamate]

Well that girl’s story never resonated with me beyond the thought - play stupid games win stupid prizes. I guess I get to sidestep mom’s accusations of racism here. All you guys who supported her though...<45>

That's expected, can't expect Zionists to acknowledge the humanity of any Palestinian children whether they are white or brown

 

[Bald1]

The one that changes color is the Virgin Mary.

Like an octopus? It's all starting to make sense now! Lemme esplain -

As octopus DNA originates from outer space it only makes sense that they were sent here as part of the well documented intelligent design strategy by Yahweh. Joachim and Anne (Marys parents) were desperate for a child and as a wealthy merchant Joachim sought out the best fertility dictors of their time. Their recommendation? Fast, except for eating octopus, then call me in the morning.

The concentration of 2nd hand octopus (octopie?) dna must have led to remarkable colour changing ability being passed down to Mary. Also the octopus' gift of thinking tentacles left a legacy as evidenced by her remarkable multitasking skills at breast feeding while donkey steering. The outer space octopus colonization theory also explains the Japanese tentacle porn obsession. But that's another story.


I might have got a few particulars wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the goofiest shit I've written in a while and I'm going to hell.

 

[Rod1]

You've mentioned this before and it's always kind of weird to me. I've met a lot of Mexican persons in my life, almost entirely in the US, and most of them are very dark complected. I realize that there is a typical class of Mexican laborers, particularly agricultural, that are drawn to the US, but even the graduate students and more well-off Mexicans I have met are often quite dark.

Why would the color of Jesus change? New Spain followed the baroque tradition brought from the old world.

Not to mention that the educated elite were for the most part Spanish and their descendants.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I think she should feel ashamed. She just downplayed her daughers courage and eloquence by implying she's getting recognition mostly due to her appearance.

No she didn't, she was implying that there are many other Palestinian children just as brave and eloquent as Ahed who get ignored because they're not as marketable. She should be proud of having raised Ahed but also in the fact that her pride in and love of her own child didn't blind her to the plight of other Palestinian children and the wider struggle.

And ideally that's what Western media would want, for this story to be about Ahed specifically and her oppression at the hands of a few soldiers and bureaucrats, not the suffering of the Palestinian nation and the oppression of the Zionist occupation as a whole. She's resisting that despite how tempting it might be to make this story about her daughter and her family as divorced from the wider issues,

 

[abiG]

Really powerful and on-point commentary by the mother of Ahed Tamimi, who became internet famous after slapping an Israeli soldier who had shot her cousin, and just why Ahed's image seemed to resonate with Western observers to a degree that countless other images had not. In her opinion, it was largely due to the fact that Ahed, like many but not most Palestinians, is particularly light-skinned, light-haired, and similar looking to Western children.


Ahed Tamimi’s mother said that the media attention and worldwide solidarity that her daughter received following her arrest by Israeli occupation forces was rooted in racism.

“Frankly it is probably Ahed’s looks that prompted this worldwide solidarity and that’s racist by the way,” Nariman Tamimi told the Anadolu Agency, “because many Palestinian children are in Ahed’s position but weren’t treated in this way.”

“In fact one journalist wrote in Haaretz once on why they sympathized with Ahed when they were trying to arrest me once; they arrested me and she was crying,” she explained. “It’s because they felt that she looked like them, she said. So perhaps the world showed more solidarity because she looks like their children, but all Palestinian children are Ahed Tamimi.”

“There are thousands of stories that the media needs to pay attention to and highlight all of the occupation’s crimes, because the occupation needs to be seen as the war crime it is and legal measures need to be taken to that effect,” she added.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180802-tamimis-mother-support-for-ahed-is-based-on-racism/

This is a weird one. Thanks for posting.

My first thoughts here are about the context these statements were made within. While on the surface, especially to us in our racially charged world, the comments surely seem both counterproductive, but also they seem like she has sold both the world's supporters of the Palestinian struggle and her own daughter short.

That said, these people truly understand racism. It isn't like here where everyone who disagrees with you is a racist or those who stand against open borders to be racist or those who simply notice obvious differences as racist.

You see, these people have lived under a TRULY racist apartheid system for decades. Ahed was literally born into this. To sit there and watch all the darker skinned peoples' homes bulldozed so "white" only or even "Jewish" only cities and towns can be built where their homes once stood is pretty much unimaginable from our prospective.

These people, while Ahed is a genetic outlier are a darker skinned Semitic people. The European invaders are Caucasians, literally from the Caucuses. I am not sure anyone from our world can understand what true racism is anymore, but the Palestinian people know all too well.

 

[Protectandserve]

So since I didn't support her does that make me the non racist one?

 

[Rod1]

Like an octopus? It's all starting to make sense now! Lemme esplain -

As octopus DNA originates from outer space it only makes sense that they were sent here as part of the well documented intelligent design strategy by Yahweh. Joachim and Anne (Marys parents) were desperate for a child and as a wealthy merchant Joachim sought out the best fertility dictors of their time. Their recommendation? Fast, except for eating octopus, then call me in the morning.

The concentration of 2nd hand octopus (octopie?) dna must have led to remarkable colour changing ability being passed down to Mary. Also the octopus' gift of thinking tentacles left a legacy as evidenced by her remarkable multitasking skills at breast feeding while donkey steering. The outer space octopus colonization theory also explains the Japanese tentacle porn obsession. But that's another story.


I might have got a few particulars wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the goofiest shit I've written in a while and I'm going to hell.

Or in simpler terms, when a monotheistic religion was taking over polytheistic societies Jesus was not changed but Mary and other saints took over the persona of different gods.

Mary took over the cult of a fertility goddess in Mexico, so thats probably why she is brown.

Although she isnt the same color as the indian in the painting so, maybe she wasnt intended to be seen as brown.

 

[Islam Imamate]

So since I didn't support her does that make me the non racist one?

Sure but based off your non-support of her and your name I'm guessing you're a bootlicker instead which might even be worse.

 

[Black Helicopters]

I’m not on the “everything is racist” bandwagon but no fucking shit. If she was just another brown Palestinian no one would care.

I don’t think it’s necessarily a racist thing though, I think anytime anyone stands out because they’re not expected to be in a certain situation, that they get attention. The first black, white, Asian, etc. anything gets attention

It’s funny seeing people deny it simply because the mother used it as a critique of Western civilization although it is obviously not unique to the west

 

[Gunny]

That's expected, can't expect Zionists to acknowledge the humanity of any Palestinian children whether they are white or brown

I fully acknowledge her humanity. She took an action that invited an entirely predictable consequence. In the future I would advise her not to hit soldiers just as I would advise my own daughter not to hit police officers.

 

[Black Helicopters]

No she didn't, she was implying that there are many other Palestinian children just as brave and eloquent as Ahed who get ignored because they're not as marketable. She should be proud of having raised Ahed but also in the fact that her pride in and love of her own child didn't blind her to the plight of other Palestinian children and the wider struggle.

And ideally that's what Western media would want, for this story to be about Ahed specifically and her oppression at the hands of a few soldiers and bureaucrats, not the suffering of the Palestinian nation and the oppression of the Zionist occupation as a whole. She's resisting that despite how tempting it might be to make this story about her daughter and her family as divorced from the wider issues,

Why should she be proud of raising a whore who doesn’t properly cover up? Fuck her

 

[Bald1]

Or in simpler terms, when a monotheistic religion was taking over polytheistic societies Jesus was not changed but Mary and other saints took over the persona of different gods.

Mary took over the cult of a fertility goddess in Mexico, so thats probably why she is brown.

Although she isnt the same color as the indian in the painting so, maybe she wasnt intended to be seen as brown.

Nice theory but it needs more octopuses.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

You've mentioned this before and it's always kind of weird to me. I've met a lot of Mexican persons in my life, almost entirely in the US, and most of them are very dark complected. I realize that there is a typical class of Mexican laborers, particularly agricultural, that are drawn to the US, but even the graduate students and more well-off Mexicans I have met are often quite dark.

Yeah, but the notion that religious iconography should match the devotees' race/color is a fairly new concept and pretty American. I mean, the Black Jesus and black angels thing only really gathered steam after the Civil Rights movement. Prior to that, Jesus and the angels were white.

Latin America hasn't started on that de-colonizing path yet. Jesus, the angels, God are white and that's all there is to it. I recall countless times when recent Latino immigrants remark on how black Americans have black religious iconography.

"They have a black Jesus? Lol wtf?" It's just a mind-blower to them.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I fully acknowledge her humanity. She took an action that invited an entirely predictable consequence. In the future I would advise her not to hit soldiers just as I would advise my own daughter not to hit police officers.

No you don't acknowledge her humanity or else you wouldn't expect her to act like an automata and sit by quietly while her cousin got blasted in the fucking face with a rubber bullet and sent into a three day coma by soldiers trying to bully her family on their own property.

Look, I know the deal. You want Palestinians to act like cattle as they are herded off their land in the service of Zionist colonization. There is no form of resistance in your eyes on the part of the Palestinians that is legitimate, they must submit to the apartheid state and its colonial project quietly. Heck, wouldn't be surprised if you expect them to be grateful for it.

 

[Gunny]

No you don't acknowledge her humanity or else you wouldn't expect her to act like an automata and sit by quietly while her cousin got blasted in the fucking face with a rubber bullet and sent into a three day coma by soldiers trying to bully her family on their own property.

Look, I know the deal. You want Palestinians to act like cattle as they are herded off their land in the service of Zionist colonization. There is no form of resistance in your eyes on the part of the Palestinians that is legitimate, they must submit to the apartheid state and its colonial project quietly. Heck, wouldn't be surprised if you expect them to be grateful for it.

Jesus H. Christ man, take some kava kava or something.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Jesus H. Christ man, take some kava kava or something.

Dodge noted.

You'd be the type of guy in the 60s who'd see blacks getting attacked by dogs and hit by water cannons and think, play stupid games, win stupid prizes XD

 

[Trotsky]

Yeah, but the notion that religious iconography should match the devotees' race/color is a fairly new concept and pretty American. I mean, the Black Jesus and black angels thing only really gathered steam after the Civil Rights movement. Prior to that, Jesus and the angels were white.

Latin America hasn't started on that de-colonizing path yet. Jesus, the angels, God are white and that's all there is to it. I recall countless times when recent Latino immigrants remark on how black Americans have black religious iconography.

"They have a black Jesus? Lol wtf?" It's just a mind-blower to them.

Oh, I wasn't referring to Jesus specifically, but rather Rod's broader comments on whiteness in Mexico.

But I'm not familiar with any black Jesus depictions in Africa American churches: just not unrealistically white ones like you seem in some white churches.

Why would the color of Jesus change? New Spain followed the baroque tradition brought from the old world.

Not to mention that the educated elite were for the most part Spanish and their descendants.

I wasn't talking about Jesus, but rather the larger subject of whiteness in Mexico that you've posted about.


EDIT: Whoops, I had quoted the wrong post. Sorry, boys.

 

[Gunny]

Dodge noted.

You'd be the type of guy in the 60s who'd see blacks getting attacked by dogs and hit by water cannons and think, play stupid games, win stupid prizes XD

I’m ignoring your straw man. Why on earth would I adopt and argue the stance of your invented foe?

 

[HomerThompson]

Oh, I wasn't referring to Jesus specifically, but rather Rod's broader comments on whiteness in Mexico.

But I'm not familiar with any black Jesus depictions in Africa American churches: just not unrealistically white ones like you seem in some white churches.



I wasn't talking about Jesus, but rather the larger subject of whiteness in Mexico that you've posted about.


EDIT: Whoops, I had quoted the wrong post. Sorry, boys.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I’m ignoring your straw man. Why on earth would I adopt and argue the stance of your invented foe?

Ah yes, the strawman defense that is so common here when someone has nothing of substance to respond with.

But if that's what you're going with then, one wonders what how you think Ahed should've reacted to the sight of her cousin getting put into a coma in front of her. Should she have just put her head down and stayed quiet?