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It's more dangerous than you think. I'm doing intermittent fasting now and I'm ready to kill someone.
Like totally. And then peace....in the Middle East.
He is not asking for systemic weight cutting changes in UFC or MMA. He is asking to have the privilege of earning a shot at 155 by fighting other 155ers not at 155. Not for everyone, and not for a title shot. Just him, while he climbs the ranks at 155 (by fighting at 170, against other 155ers).
Let's not obfuscate the facts. Thanks.
Its funny when fans shit on fighters for cutting a lot of weight especially if they got nothing else on the fighter. They all cut weight besides the few that i could count on 1 hand.
Well, things can be done. But it is certainly proving difficult to find a solution that isn't worse than the original problem, that most everyone can agree with. Even CSAC - after studying the issue a few years - had to roll back their idea of maxing out weight gains of 10%. That's because half of fighting were over 10%. For now they've landed on 15%. We'll see how that goes.Weight cutting is part of MMA and they cut more and more. Each division fighters get bigger theres not much that can be done about that.
and the UFC is allowing it ... better than nothing I say
I am a big fan of eliminating weight cutting. I was very entertained by Conor's run to the FW title. Conor isn't using his leverage to change the game, he is using his leverage to change the game in his favor and to give him as many options as possible.... yet now that Conor uses his leverage to basically have 155ers fight closer to their natural non-cutting weight at 170, most are outraged and complaining ... ???
Not a Conor fan nor hater, just an appreciator of no - or limited - weight cutting and everyone fighting around their real weight.
What’s the problem?
Im not saying theres no solution but i just dont see it. Athletic comission will try their best but fighters will always gain the system. If nobody would cut weight or a reasonable amount 5-10 pounds or so it would be better for the health of the fighters but theres no easy answer.Agreed. Picking on one fighter who is doing the same thing as 99% of all non-HW's is ignorant, at best.
Well, things can be done. But it is certainly proving difficult to find a solution that isn't worse than the original problem, that most everyone can agree with. Even CSAC - after studying the issue a few years - had to roll back their idea of maxing out weight gains of 10%. That's because half of fighting were over 10%. For now they've landed on 15%. We'll see how that goes.
It always amazes me that in a sport where the goal is to hit someone so hard you make their brain shut down, sherdogs main concern is fighters dehydrating themselves.
... yet now that Conor uses his leverage to basically have 155ers fight closer to their natural non-cutting weight at 170, most are outraged and complaining ... ???
In that case, how do you propose we end weight cutting?If your health gets fucked in a fight it is what it is . If it gets fucked making weight for a fight that is dumb. If performance is effected by weight cutting and it leads to a lot of boring hesitant fights then it’s dumb . If it increases chance of injury and even death that’s dumb. Fans hate weight cutting because it’s dumb. I don’t think it’s a concern for fighter health it’s a concern for a practice that often ruins careers and fight cards .
Lol, well, I think theres another motive behind Conor and all this. Hes fighting other lightweights at 170 where , yes, it eliminates the cutting but it has also let him ,ufc,wme,Dana and coach navigate him through obvious favorable options. First Diaz fight only one that backfired and he was a -440 favorite. I think he doesnt want to ACTUALLY fight a WELTERWEIGHT so he can be lazy and not worry about the weight cut process by fighting lightweights at ...."eye wink " ..." welterweight ".I also get this feeling he doesn't want to fight khabib agsin or he feels hes not quite ready for re match ( which he hasnt earned yet anyway).... yet now that Conor uses his leverage to basically have 155ers fight closer to their natural non-cutting weight at 170, most are outraged and complaining ... ???
Not a Conor fan nor hater, just an appreciator of no - or limited - weight cutting and everyone fighting around their real weight.
What’s the problem?
In that case, how do you propose we end weight cutting?
If it was that easy and beneficial, literally any one of the many successful MMA organizations would have implemented weight cutting measures. (OneFC weight cutting rules are a total sham).
OneFC dont release weigh in results, or hydration test results. I guess I don't view that as successful or trustworthy.There are many ways to gradually reduce weight cutting. No way to end it, but you can minimize it. Challenging to implement, but can be done. Many things are challenging to change - legalizing MMA, adding weight classes when there was none to start with, etc.
I don't follow OneFC that closely, just know the basics. I'm sure it's far from perfect, but it seems like it is not a TOTAL sham. Demetrious Johnson is now fighting at 135 for the Flyweight class so I'm pretty sure that means 10 pounds less weight cutting?
It always amazes me that in a sport where the goal is to hit someone so hard you make their brain shut down, sherdogs main concern is fighters dehydrating themselves.
Right, you're c learly uneducated so don't hurt your brain thinking too hard.It always amazes me that in a sport where the goal is to hit someone so hard you make their brain shut down, sherdogs main concern is fighters dehydrating themselves.
... yet now that Conor uses his leverage to basically have 155ers fight closer to their natural non-cutting weight at 170, most are outraged and complaining ... ???
Not a Conor fan nor hater, just an appreciator of no - or limited - weight cutting and everyone fighting around their real weight.
What’s the problem?
The brain is the last place to rehydrate... weight cutting makes cte worse! Most of the deaths in combat sports are related to poor weight cuts!
Right, you're c learly uneducated so don't hurt your brain thinking too hard.
Allow me to explain it to you. The brain is cushioned by layers called the meninges. This layer acts as a spongy cushion to protect your brain. When you dehydrate yourself, you suck the water out of this layer, and you reduce the protection on your brain. That layer doesn't fully rehydrate after a significant weight cut. Therefore you are putting yourself at significantly increased risk for a TBI by cutting significant amounts of weight.
TL;DR: Weight cutting significantly increases the risk of concussion and TBI.
... yet now that Conor uses his leverage to basically have 155ers fight closer to their natural non-cutting weight at 170, most are outraged and complaining ... ???
Not a Conor fan nor hater, just an appreciator of no - or limited - weight cutting and everyone fighting around their real weight.
What’s the problem?
Thanks doctors.
I understand that dehydration increases risk of brain damage. My point is that getting kicked in the head for a living increases risk of brain damage far more. Of all the dangerous parts of MMA, dehydration seems like an odd sticking point for a lot of you.
If you're overly concerned about participant health and safety, this is probably not the sport for you.