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Frank Shamrock
He retires with a 20-7-2 record. Gets Dave Metzler to ride his dick by saying how undersized he was even though most of his fights were in Japan against other guys who were the same size or smaller, and how ahead of the game he was even though Miletich and Hume were doing the same cross training shit at the time as were pretty much all of the shooto gyms.
Ducks belfort, Wanderlei, and sakaraba and won't rematch Tito while talking about a possible comeback, then comes back against fucking bryan pardoe. He then plays the same game, to comeback against Caesar Gracie who straight up lied about his record early UFC style.
Look at when he initially retires the first gen and the early second gen U.S. ,Brazilian, and European mma orgs were up and running and Japanese orgs were steering more and more into straight shoots with less rules and the UFC was getting more and more of their talent from there instead of random black belts and look at the two guys he fights for his comebacks, the landscape was changing and Frank was more interested in Metzler praising him then actually proving that he was that good.
Then he fights Renzo gets intentionally dqed while losing then he tries to say he was used to fighting nhb event though he fought mainly in Japan with a much more restrictive ruleset. He beats Baroni, Metzler conveniently talks about how injured he was while ignore Baroni came in fucked up to. He then loses to a green Cung le. Then Nick Diaz beats him.
He should be considered Pat Miletich level without the coaching resume, with the big difference being his losses being more front loaded than Pat on their initial runs. But he still has people like Metzler dickriding him.
He retires with a 20-7-2 record. Gets Dave Metzler to ride his dick by saying how undersized he was even though most of his fights were in Japan against other guys who were the same size or smaller, and how ahead of the game he was even though Miletich and Hume were doing the same cross training shit at the time as were pretty much all of the shooto gyms.
Ducks belfort, Wanderlei, and sakaraba and won't rematch Tito while talking about a possible comeback, then comes back against fucking bryan pardoe. He then plays the same game, to comeback against Caesar Gracie who straight up lied about his record early UFC style.
Look at when he initially retires the first gen and the early second gen U.S. ,Brazilian, and European mma orgs were up and running and Japanese orgs were steering more and more into straight shoots with less rules and the UFC was getting more and more of their talent from there instead of random black belts and look at the two guys he fights for his comebacks, the landscape was changing and Frank was more interested in Metzler praising him then actually proving that he was that good.
Then he fights Renzo gets intentionally dqed while losing then he tries to say he was used to fighting nhb event though he fought mainly in Japan with a much more restrictive ruleset. He beats Baroni, Metzler conveniently talks about how injured he was while ignore Baroni came in fucked up to. He then loses to a green Cung le. Then Nick Diaz beats him.
He should be considered Pat Miletich level without the coaching resume, with the big difference being his losses being more front loaded than Pat on their initial runs. But he still has people like Metzler dickriding him.