More plates more dates discusses Jones drug use

Stop bringing up this bullshit. USADA already cleared him. The science proved that he is innocent. He has brother's who played in the NFL, his genetics are obviously on a different level to normal people.

He also has brothers that popped.
 
So what you're saying is you can cheat as long as someone who is qualified explains it?

Pretty much. Or if it hasn't been proved that you "willingly took" the banned substance. For whatever that means.
 
It's pretty obvious what he did :

1- Took PEDS, then took Clomid post cycle to prevent aromastase. Classic

2- Got busted, lied about "sex pills" to gullible fans, and then took Turinabol which doesn't need an aromastase blocker post cycle.

The worst is USADA reducing his sentence because of snitching and Novinstky shilling for him when Nevada banned him.

"Not his fault !"

When you feel you have to hide under an octagon that says everything about his guilt you need to say.
 
Stop bringing up this bullshit. USADA already cleared him. The science proved that he is innocent. He has brother's who played in the NFL, his genetics are obviously on a different level to normal people.
You have no idea what you're talking about. You're quoting "science" you don't understand on decisions you've never read.

It's pretty obvious what he did :

1- Took PEDS, then took Clomid post cycle to prevent aromastase. Classic

2- Got busted, lied about "sex pills" to gullible fans, and then took Turinabol which doesn't need an aromastase blocker post cycle.

The worst is USADA reducing his sentence because of snitching and Novinstky shilling for him when Nevada banned him.

"Not his fault !"
I think the worst part is the second time around when they admit to his forged signature on USADA's acknowledgment forms for the supplement informatonal videos he never read. You REALLY can't claim ignorance when they hand you the info, and you fake it
 
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It doesn't matter because jons natural talent would have made him win anyway. It's a mute point
fuck no it wouldnt, he'd have lost about 5 times by now.
 
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Stop bringing up this bullshit. USADA already cleared him. The science proved that he is innocent. He has brother's who played in the NFL, his genetics are obviously on a different level to normal people.

Hopefully this is sarcasm...Ya never know over the internet.

His brother also popped hot for steroids in the NFL. Go figure....
 
Why do people even debate this anymore? It’s been confirmed by just about everyone. The only person that even thinks he’s truly innocent at this point is Jon and that’s only because he actually believes the garbage that comes out his mouth.

He’s a cheater. It runs in his family.

Skilled and talented ? Yes no question about it.

But the dude is about as blatant of a cheater as it gets. Has there been another UFC athlete with as many failed drug tests and “suspicious” results as he has had?

The best part is when defenders of his fall back on the “Um everyone is using so it’s ok!!!” Excuse as a way to justify it when there is no “proof” that everyone is using. However there’s a whole boatload of concrete evidence that Jon has juiced up.
 
You don't know that. If he had all the natural talent, then why did he take them ?

Yup ped's makes you outwrestle olympic wrestlers, submit black belts, and knock out kickboxing world champions. Makes perfect sense
 
Yup ped's makes you outwrestle olympic wrestlers, submit black belts, and knock out kickboxing world champions. Makes perfect sense
oh no, PEDs just give you big muscles and don't make any difference in your performance. because as we all know, physical ability has no connection to success in MMA. it's all pure skill.
 
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Yup ped's makes you outwrestle olympic wrestlers, submit black belts, and knock out kickboxing world champions. Makes perfect sense
So you're saying had he not used PEDS the results would be the same ? Again, why take them then ?
 
Yup ped's makes you outwrestle olympic wrestlers, submit black belts, and knock out kickboxing world champions. Makes perfect sense

Any logical person knows that Jon is naturally talented and has a tremendous amount of skill in all areas of the game. He’s one of the most all around fighters there’s ever been in the sport. There’s no questioning that.

Doesn’t change the fact that he’s a blatant cheat and was on Peds. Unfortunately there’s no way to ever tell just how much they actually helped him. A lot ? A little? No one can tell. Just impossible to quantify.

Everyone here wants to pretend to be a doctor when it comes to this situation. Discussions like this are exactly why Jon’s legacy will always be stained and he has no one to blame other then himself for believing he wasn’t good enough to compete without Peds.
 
Incoming 10 pages of Jones fanboys explaining how it's totally normal that "sex pills" make you pulse Turinabol for years and how he's a victim

Remember : it's just a pinch of indestructible pulsing salt in an Olympic sized swimming pool.
Already posted - dumbasses who don't even understand what he tested positive for, and when.

Turinabol is completely unrelated to his shady unregulated generic Cialis incident.
 
One thing about steroids

Over time it creates great inconsistencies
Look at Overeem
He 100% has his cycle down pat now but looked timid and fragile against Volkov

Jones has been looking more and more beatable also

5 years ago Jones would have finished these guys
 
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