Social More black people are dying from Coronavirus in America

[grimballer]

There were no extreme measures. A private company designed a test. The government contracted with them. They mass produced those tests. They started doing contact tracing. That was it. And these are free countries. Some, like Taiwan, have objectively more freedom of speech and more right to assemble. In South Korea, I can say whatever the fuck I want; the technically less freedom of speech has to do with censored porn (they censor the dicks and vaginas, but boobs are fair game lol) and defamation laws (so people don't get scrupulously defamed like the Covington MAGA kids). Political speech is 100% protected just like it is in America. These are free countries.

America is taking more extreme and more anti-freedom measures than were ever taken here.


Who's talking about shutting down the country? No one here. Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and South Korea never shut down the country. America is only shutting down the country because we were never competent enough to do contact tracing.

All Trump had to do was make enough tests to do contact tracing and this would have been a blip on the radar like it is here. Instead, it's a national emergency and we're verging on a new depression. That's incompetent leadership.

so 4/200 coutries (3 being city states) did a good job regarding this pandemic? Good for them!

it doesn’t change the fact that big majority of the world simply wasn’t prepared n even WHO were downplaying the virus until very recently.

Now also consider that those 4 countries are Asian n they’re already more proactive when it comes to viruses n other diseases

n that trump is facing insane opposition back home n it’s easy to see why you’re comparing apples to oranges.

 

[superpunch]

so 4/200 coutries (3 being city states) did a good job regarding this pandemic? Good for them!

it doesn’t change the fact that big majority of the world simply wasn’t prepared n even WHO were downplaying the virus until very recently.

Now also consider that those 4 countries are Asian n they’re already more proactive when it comes to viruses n other diseases

n that trump is facing insane opposition back home n it’s easy to see why you’re comparing apples to oranges.

It used to be the West that was on the forefront science and proactive governing. That's what I'm trying to say. It's the non-Western countries that are more advanced, intelligent, and proactive here; the West is getting left in the dust like an undeveloped country. We've devolved into stupidity, ignorance, and reactiveness. Trump (and European leaders, and democrats) is all of these things.

The thing hurting the West isn't China. It's ourselves.

Countries like South Korea are carrying on the West's legacy. They're a free, democratic country and they haven't devolved into those things. They're what we used to be and what we should strive to be again.

 

[grimballer]

How am I remotely being confrontational with you? I'm not even sure I disagree with you, hence why I'm trying to figure out what you're arguing for.

You had pretty good idea what I was taking about earlier in your response

you just trying to make it more than it is now.

 

[Slick_36]

You had pretty good idea what I was taking about earlier in your response

you just trying to make it more than it is now.

Why are you so afraid to answer the question?

 

[superpunch]

To those excusing ignorance and being reactive instead of being intelligent and being proactive, I'll remind you that this is what America could be with those things:



A country doing amazing things doesn't look for scapegoats and doesn't make excuses. It focuses on winning. Are you focused on someone else (bitching about China) or are you focused on winning? Losers focus on winners, winners focus on winning.

{<Mcgoat}{<Mcgoat}

 

[grimballer]

It used to be the West that was on the forefront science and proactive governing. That's what I'm trying to say. It's the non-Western countries that are more advanced, intelligent, and proactive here; the West is getting left in the dust like an undeveloped country. We've devolved into stupidity, ignorance, and reactiveness. Trump (and European leaders, and democrats) is all of these things.

The thing hurting the West isn't China. It's ourselves.

I agree with you there.

everybody’s more concern about how to use this for political gains than actually solving the problem.

Also you say the west was leader in the world, but that’s when they weren’t too concerned about all the social issues we see today.

while other countries are living in 21th century n taking pragmatic approaches to challenges they face in the west it’s a constant struggle between ppl trying to stay in 20th century n those who wanna skip 21th century altogether n live in 22nd.

Also to be fair everybody was blindsided by this pandemic (expect those 4 Asian countries).

just like 9/11 was an eye opener, this pandemic should be too.

look at countries that did a good job n implement their approach for next time

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

...or Skid Row. Journalists would definitely be reporting on the plague reaping havok on the homeless population.

Oh wait.

Honestly are you really this much of a racist turd? That you can’t understand why it would be important for scientists to study a specific ethnic community being hit harder by a pandemic? You know just like they have done in Italy. That was explained to you 3-4 times already.


also many articles have been written on the homeless situation across the country but you’re a liar on top of being a racist so you just create your own stories up out of thin air

 

[grimballer]

Why are you so afraid to answer the question?

What?

I did already. Why you want be to answer a question I already did?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Why do you keep using this skid row thing as some kind of gotcha?

The homeless population, of anyone, are much less likely to seek medical care/testing and therefore I doubt there are any real efforts to quantify 'how hard skid row has been hit' compared to everyone else. There are simply no extensive numbers to report on given the context of how homeless people typically conduct themselves.

...and the journalists haven't asked any public officials 'why haven't there been any numbers about how the corona virus hitting the homeless?'

There'a nearly 18,000 cases in California alone, yet no attempt has been made to report how hard it is effecting homeless populations.

Further, people on skid row are homeless because they are mentally ill, have addiction problems, etc., which means most of them don't work.

Breaking News!

That's completely different than someone who has to pilot the city bus and come in contact with thousands of people every single day. I would guess that the homeless exposure rate is much lower than working people as even standing on the side of the road and asking for change has probably completely dried up - nobody is stopping to exchange something hand-to-hand anymore. But all those minimum wage service jobs are still being tended to.

You guess?

You're guessing?

You're guessing at a conclusion based on no information whatsoever, that the homeless are doing just fine.

Wow.

'Yeah, there's a highly infectious virus with hundreds of thousands of cases throughout the world and tens of thousands of deaths. But the unhealthiest, poorest, and most helpless segment of our population are doing okay.'

 

[I am your real dad]

There's also a job component element to it. African-Americans, as a group, tend to hold jobs in public facing positions, like food service, public transportation, and healthcare, that are also considered essential so they're not doing the work from home thing to the same extent. And hospitals in low income communities, rural or urban, tend to have worse outcomes no matter who/what they're treating.

It's simply the healthcare reflection of pre-existing disparities in communities.

That's probably true. Most poor whites do physical labor instead of work around people like Logging, Farming, mining, carpentry, mechanic, ECT........

 

[superpunch]

I agree with you there.

everybody’s more concern about how to use this for political gains than actually solving the problem.

Also you say the west was leader in the world, but that’s when they weren’t too concerned about all the social issues we see today.

while other countries are living in 21th century n taking pragmatic approaches to challenges they face in the west it’s a constant struggle between ppl trying to stay in 20th century n those who wanna skip 21th century altogether n live in 22nd.

Also to be fair everybody was blindsided by this pandemic (expect those 4 Asian countries).

just like 9/11 was an eye opener, this pandemic should be too.

look at countries that did a good job n implement their approach for next time

Dude we had Jim Crow, MLK (god bless him), the Civil Rights Protests, the Vietnam War, the Vietnam protests, and fucking hippies all back then!!!! Today's identity politics ain't shit compared to back then!! We're just dumber and weaker-willed!! No excuses man, we're fucking up!

 

[freakroor]

and if white people are afraid to be around black people, period, due to fear of violence, is that a legitimate fear?

LOL, oh Sherfront you never cease to amaze me

 

[Slick_36]

What?

I did already. Why you want be to answer a question I already did?

No you didn't. You're just repeating the assertion. I'm asking what the argument is that your supporting with that assertion.

 

[eternaldarkness]

...and the journalists haven't asked any public officials 'why haven't there been any numbers about how the corona virus hitting the homeless?'

There'a nearly 18,000 cases in California alone, yet no attempt has been made to report how hard it is effecting homeless populations.



Breaking News!



You guess?

You're guessing?

You're guessing at a conclusion based on no information whatsoever, that the homeless are doing just fine.

Wow.

'Yeah, there's a highly infectious virus with hundreds of thousands of cases throughout the world and tens of thousands of deaths. But the unhealthiest, poorest, and most helpless segment of our population are doing okay.'

No one really cares about the homeless, especially when we have bigger fish to fry.

 

[grimballer]

No you didn't. You're just repeating the assertion. I'm asking what the argument is that your supporting with that assertion.

ppl from same region have similar underlying conditions?

 

[cunglaowins]

Food prices and availability are different depending on the area. Urban food deserts mostly affect minorities, and when it comes to the virus, urban areas are the main focus.

Say you're a bachelor working 40 hours a week, with a little preparation and discipline you can definitely eat healthier and cheaper than eating fast food. Now say you're a single mom in the city working two jobs, you have 3 kids to feed and the closest true grocery store takes two hours to get to with public transportation. Those cheap premade meals suddenly become a lot more viable than the food you say they should be getting instead.

Used to go to a 24 hour Walmart (it’s not 24 hour anymore) Even as a man, it rough wheeling out stuff in the freezing cold at night. I saw so many single moms with kids shopping. The kids are crying because they should be sleeping but that’s the only time they have for shopping if they have night jobs. Even with a car, it’s very rough shopping with kids at that hour.

They stand in line with tons of groceries on their carts. The produce is messed up, dried, picked over and rejected. Not the best to begin with at Walmart at the beginning of the day, much worse at 1am. I told the lady she’d save so much more shopping that much at Costco down the street. She said she can’t afford the membership and Costco closes at 8:30pm.

Not only single moms but I saw lots of Latino families with young kids at the 24 hour Walmart at 1am. It sucks being poor. And this was before the pandemic.

 

[Amerikuracana]

The cops in Detroit have broken up dozens of large gatherings such as BBQs with up to 100 people.

There ya go.

 

[grimballer]

Dude we had Jim Crow, MLK (god bless him), the Civil Rights Protests, the Vietnam War, the Vietnam protests, and fucking hippies all back then!!!! Today's identity politics ain't shit compared to back then!! We're just dumber and weaker-willed!! No excuses man, we're fucking up!

well being “woke” n full blown sjw certainly doesn’t help.

Today in the west political activism is more important than actual science, meritocracy, professionalism, common sense....

As long as west is led by political activists they’ll continue losing

 

[superpunch]

well being “woke” n full blown sjw certainly doesn’t help.

Today in the west political activism is more important than actual science, meritocracy, professionalism, common sense....

As long as west is led by political activists they’ll continue losing

Woke activists lead the EU and they failed. Trump leads the US and he's failing too.

That ain't it!

 

[kahiljabroni]

Ok? I know correlation doesn't equal causation, but I think the argument has been stated pretty clearly in this thread. You can refute it if you want, no one gives a fuck what either of us think, so either make a rational argument or don't bother posting your irrelevant ignorant opinion.

I dont know what the fk you're talking about