More bad press for BT Sport (UK's home for UFC) after 100% price increase.

Well atleast it seems they are scraping PPV after their 239 experiment.

241 isn't PPV this weekend.

242 is. Seems they're picking and choosing the PPVs to charge people more for, I'd imagine any Conor, Jones or Khabib PPV you'd be paying extra for.
 
@SpongebobsPineapple is this weekends card on PPV with BT sport?

No, the next one is Khabib and Poirier :)

nah, thats not true, every single CL league game is on bt you just have to push red buttons or go to btsport extra

One thing BT have got 100% right is the champions league and europa league coverage. its 10x better than it ever was on sky

Of course, as a liverpool fan, everything champions league related is pretty fucking rosy to me :D :D

I see, I don't really follow football so I can't comment really but I guess that's fair enough :)

I suppose it depends what you like too as a friend of mine is a big football fan and I've asked him a few times which does he prefer out of Sky Sports and BT Sport for football and it's Sky Sport easily for him.

He's a Liverpool fan too but he has said he likes Sky Sports better but I know it's different for each of us so I hear you completely :)

Yeah, because Dana has nothing to do with the “greedy businessmen” and he is just a victim in all this and if it was up to him prices would be lower, right? That’s was you are trying to say?

The guy who had snow in his Las Vegas driveway while his fighters are broke and retire with brain damage, no pension and no money will slash prices if given the opportunity rather than gouge consumers... that’s your hypothesis?

How did that work with the streaming PPVs on ESPN+ again? Funny because as I recall “cutting out the greedy middle men” resulted in the same ridiculous price($69.99) PLUS a monthly fee.


I agree that a change should be made, but if you are counting on Dana to be your savior you may have disappointment in your future.

That's not what I mean, basically when they have these TV companies/PPV etc... there's a middle man that's taking profit from airing his product, think Vince McMahon with his Network, he's now dealing direct with the consumer meaning no middle men to pay meaning more profit to him directly while charging the flat and affordable fee to all fans so they're not eliminating any of their audience, that's what I mean.

I know what you mean though, I just do feel that it's just a matter of time that things will have to change somehow because this PPV thing can't really survive in the UK and in general also, I know I keep referring to Vince McMahon with his network but he really does have it spot on, the WWE fans have got it made in that sense and good on them :)
 
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More like pay per screw amirite

Yep, the whole idea for it in the first place was to rinse fans, we know this because they were perfectly alright before.

Someone just one day came up with the idea of "Lets make a pay wall channel and charge them extra" and people fell for it and bought into it and now it's become the norm for a lot of people but it's really not.

Premium prices and things like that should be for places of public viewing such as bars etc. not people who are sat in the comfort of their own homes already paying a subscription and expected to pay premium prices on top.

It's 2019 ffs and it shouldn't have been the case anyway.

242 is. Seems they're picking and choosing the PPVs to charge people more for, I'd imagine any Conor, Jones or Khabib PPV you'd be paying extra for.

Yeah, they're just trying it to see if they can get away with it at the moment, that's why Khabib and Poirier is on this because they think with it being an earlier time it'll be successful.

It probably will get more buys but they're still getting a ton of backlash and cancellations, they don't get it but they're stupid.

However look at the Plusnet 100% increase, this goes to show they know this already and are expecting it so they're trying to make their money up elsewhere.

Only they are now receiving a lot of Plusnet cancellations too so it's not really working for them (Plusnet are letting people out of contracts easily and also some are on a monthly thing where you just turn it off yourself in your account).
 
My mate reckons that as well as no figures being mentioned for UFC 239 PPV in the UK, he read that around 20,000 people cancelled their monthly subscription to the channel at that time, too. Is that true?
Wouldn't surprise me.

The days of paying are over, you can even get films on cinema in good quality, sky box office, all sports you name it. More and more people will do it, I have converted loads of people at my work who now have the downloads and covenant to get every channel in existence for next to nothing.

I take great satisfaction everytime I watch stuff this way knowing that by doing it I am taking money out of some scum bag millionaires pocket.
 
Eventually all these greedy corporations will be on their knees, once upon a time Block Buster reigned supreme and now look, in the mud.

I meet so many people who tell me how much they pay for subscriptions as much as £100 a month for the Sky full package and I instantly educate them, these big businesses need to learn the hard way. Same with cinemas charging £10 per ticket, I give them about ten more years before they start falling and eventually they will be gone because people will be sat at home watching it for free in HD.
 
Wouldn't surprise me.

The days of paying are over, you can even get films on cinema in good quality, sky box office, all sports you name it. More and more people will do it, I have converted loads of people at my work who now have the downloads and covenant to get every channel in existence for next to nothing.

I take great satisfaction everytime I watch stuff this way knowing that by doing it I am taking money out of some scum bag millionaires pocket.

I don't know if you read the post I put earlier in the thread (I realise it's a lot to read and not everyone wants to read through a full thread) but have a look at how much the main guy at BT was earning last year and this was BEFORE the Box Office idea which only started in December for them and was really their idea of trying to get even more money on top of the billions they already have but it backfired on them and now they've lost loads.

This is also why it's no surprise that they have looked at the Plusnet platform and made them double their prices for it there, simply cause it's a budget platform they've obviously though we can double it and still be a budget platform, funny how this starts in September too when they're Poirier and Khabib event is their second PPV they're trying in September too, they've expecting the backlash and loss so they're looking at other customers to pay them back.

Only they are now getting a lot of cancellations on the Plusnet platform so it's not really worked for them, the only bad thing is Plusnet are going to get the backlash and rep from this too while BT hide behind this.

It's BT, they've fucked it up and they're trying to get their money back from their customers as much as they can, I wouldn't be surprised to hear some other increases somewhere but it's their own doing and it's up to them to rectify it, not us by paying them more.
 
Eventually all these greedy corporations will be on their knees, once upon a time Block Buster reigned supreme and now look, in the mud.

I meet so many people who tell me how much they pay for subscriptions as much as £100 a month for the Sky full package and I instantly educate them, these big businesses need to learn the hard way. Same with cinemas charging £10 per ticket, I give them about ten more years before they start falling and eventually they will be gone because people will be sat at home watching it for free in HD.

You're absolutely right and look at all the companies in the UK who have survived long term, it's no coincidence that these companies are good companies who are not only good with their customers but they don't over charge and are always giving back to their customers too, Amazon, O2 are a couple and Plusnet also are fantastic at this but it's BT that's going to ruin them with doing things like this, I don't think Plusnet have a choice but it's going to reflect on them.

All the big companies who get greedy fall, HMV almost did for this reason (which would have been a shame) and they had to be saved twice, AOL in the UK were one of the leading at one point until they were bought out by Carphone Warehouse and messed up, there's been so many and I can see things like iPhone struggling and being the next, sometimes it takes a while for people to catch on and find alternatives and feel better but eventually they do.

You're absolutely right and these companies are either naive or arrogant to think that they won't fall because they really will, they all do once they start to become greedy and upsetting their customers.

IPTV Muthafucka's

Yeah, I hear about this but I don't know a lot about it to be honest.
 
I wish the worst for BT at this point. I only have the channel for the UFC PPVs and now I'm locked into a contract while they're putting PPVs behind another paywall. That's an absolute scumbag move.

Shame on me for ever trying to do things through legitimate channels. Never again.
 
I wish the worst for BT at this point. I only have the channel for the UFC PPVs and now I'm locked into a contract while they're putting PPVs behind another paywall. That's an absolute scumbag move.

Shame on me for ever trying to do things through legitimate channels. Never again.

I understand, I'm pretty sure though a lot of people have been getting out of these contracts because they have broken their promise of the UFC staying as normal when they brought people back after the Eleven Sports deal fell through, I think you just sometimes have to be persistent and adamant with them until you eventually do (I saw a few on Twitter facing this problem also and they got out of it).

It's like I was saying above BT know what they are doing, this Plusnet 100% increase is no coincidence when they have the Khabib and Porier one coming up and they increase this in September too, they know and are expecting a loss and a backlash again and they're using their Plusnet customers to make up for that because they are on a budget platform.

It's bullshit, BT fucked up and they lost so much when they tried to pull the PPV stunt recently and now they're trying to use their customers on other platforms to make up for that, as well as doing it again with the Khabib and Porier event only because it's on at an earlier time so they want to try it, but they make others pay to cover up what they're already expected to lose.

That's what it's all about lol
 
I honestly wouldn’t mind paying more if it went to the fighters instead of Dana’s gambling addiction
 
You're absolutely right and look at all the companies in the UK who have survived long term, it's no coincidence that these companies are good companies who are not only good with their customers but they don't over charge and are always giving back to their customers too, Amazon, O2 are a couple and Plusnet also are fantastic at this but it's BT that's going to ruin them with doing things like this, I don't think Plusnet have a choice but it's going to reflect on them.

All the big companies who get greedy fall, HMV almost did for this reason (which would have been a shame) and they had to be saved twice, AOL in the UK were one of the leading at one point until they were bought out by Carphone Warehouse and messed up, there's been so many and I can see things like iPhone struggling and being the next, sometimes it takes a while for people to catch on and find alternatives and feel better but eventually they do.

You're absolutely right and these companies are either naive or arrogant to think that they won't fall because they really will, they all do once they start to become greedy and upsetting their customers.



Yeah, I hear about this but I don't know a lot about it to be honest.
It can be confusing at first but in reality it's very simple, pay an IPTV provider for a subscription, my 12 month sub cost £61, I have an android TV so the only other thing I need is a £2.99 app, it gets me 1000's of channels from around the world, they've even started adding some 4K channels, it included PPV and on demand movies, plus some downright filth that I would never watch....

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If you don't have an android TV you can use a firestick or an android set top box.
 
No, the next one is Khabib and Poirier :)



I see, I don't really follow football so I can't comment really but I guess that's fair enough :)

I suppose it depends what you like too as a friend of mine is a big football fan and I've asked him a few times which does he prefer out of Sky Sports and BT Sport for football and it's Sky Sport easily for him.

He's a Liverpool fan too but he has said he likes Sky Sports better but I know it's different for each of us so I hear you completely :)



That's not what I mean, basically when they have these TV companies/PPV etc... there's a middle man that's taking profit from airing his product, think Vince McMahon with his Network, he's now dealing direct with the consumer meaning no middle men to pay meaning more profit to him directly while charging the flat and affordable fee to all fans so they're not eliminating any of their audience, that's what I mean.

I know what you mean though, I just do feel that it's just a matter of time that things will have to change somehow because this PPV thing can't really survive in the UK and in general also, I know I keep referring to Vince McMahon with his network but he really does have it spot on, the WWE fans have got it made in that sense and good on them :)

I don’t disagree that there is a better way...... AT ALL.

I just don’t think DANA would lower consumer costs if the UFCs operating costs went down. I am pretty confident they would pocket that shit and continue squeezing every penny possible from the public .
 
I have watched every single major PPV for the last ten years for free and don't even have a TV licence, you are mugging yourself off mate.

the fact that you have to pay for a "tv license" is the funniest shit
 
Look at these greedy Euros trying to GAME the system... pay your share like the rest of us!


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That makes no sense at all. I'm not surprised, though. Lots of people online don't understand how capitalism works and frequently confuse it with socialism. There's no share to pay. That's socialism. It's irrelevant whether Euros get UFC PPVs for free or pay, say, $1,000 for them.
 
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