Montreal to Lift Controversial Pitbull Ban

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Since this is such a hot topic i thought we should look at another angle here where a pitbull ban HAS been lifted


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The Projet Montréal administration is making good on an electoral promise to lift former mayor Denis Coderre's controversial pit bull ban.

Coun. Craig Sauvé announced Friday that parts of the animal control bylaw targeting specific breeds or dogs bearing certain physical characteristics will be suspended.

The change will be ratified at the Dec. 20 executive committee meeting.

In a news release, Sauvé said that the change was made with pet owners in mind.

"Montreal is a welcoming city for pet owners and will remain so," said Sauvé.

The suspension of the articles that target specific breeds won't affect regular restrictions on dogs deemed dangerous or hazardous to public safety, he added.


This is my favourite part

"We feel like targeting one breed of dog is not the right approach, because all breeds of dogs are potentially dangerous," he told CBC. "So we have to work on how we can help owners get a better control of their dogs."

Just a disclaimer but despite appearences on these boards i am NOT one of these pitbull apologists who blindly defends these dogs and im also NOT in the opposing crowd either. Big dogs are dangerous PERIOD. Pitbulls can be especially dangerous but so are many, many other dogs and i do believe some smart regulation can go a very long way in protecting the general population from the combination of terrible ownership/parenting, inbreeding and powerful breeds

Banning dogs has proven to be ineffective in Ontario and it leaves way too many other dangerous variables unaccounted for. You cannot simply ban shit and expect things to be safer so im very curious to see how they intend on helping this issue along.


All that aside lets get this going.......this should be a shit fest
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And go
 
Yep, all breeds of dog are dangerous

Just look at these two going at it

 
Omg imagine if pit bulls were banned. Now you only have 50,000 other dog breeeds you can choose from.

Oh the horror
 
Absurd, terrible, ignorant argument.


#1 DOG BITE STATISTICS RESOURCE
http://www.dogsbite.org/dogsbite-recent-dog-bite-statistics.php


Empirical studies demonstrating the acute predisposition to violence among Pitbulls:
  1. http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf
  2. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2610618/
  3. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235708
  4. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/coa.12094/abstract
  5. http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA381425
  6. http://blues.sabinet.co.za/WebZ/Aut...ext=images/ejour/m_samj/m_samj_v97_n8_a16.pdf
  7. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1424716/
  8. http://journals.lww.com/annalsofsur..._Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx

Logical refutations of popular Pitbull apogism
  • Why are owners so much more likely to be bad owners if they own pits?
  • Why are witnesses so much more likely to mis-identify Pits vs. other breeds based on visual inspection? Why does this mathematically skew only one way?
  • Why are Pits' raw murder and mauling figures so absurdly high disproportionate to other large breeds that are similarly popular?
  • Where is the evidence to substantiate any of these popular, casual colloquialisms? For example, if you give a reason for why Pit Bull owners are more likely to be bad owners, do you have evidence to substantiate that?
  • Ask yourself: why are all of these rationalizations only applied to the defense of Pits, and never for other dogs?

Pit bulls make up 6% of the dog population and are responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982 as reported in a TIME magazine story "The Problem With Pit Bulls" by Charlotte Alter, June 20, 2014.

An April 2011 issue of Annals of Surgery reported that "these breeds should be regulated in the same way other dangerous species, such as leopards, are regulated." That report was shared with Time magazine by PETA, the animal-rights organization.


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http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/12-year-dog-bite-fatality-chart-dogsbiteorg.pdf

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Dog Bite Statistics for 2016

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2016 dog bite fatalities
Statistical information gathered by DogsBite.org is verifiable1 through collected news reports. Our Fatality Citations section documents each source used in our dog bite-related fatality research.

2016 dog bite fatality statistics
  • 31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
  • Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 12-year period of 2005 to 2016.
  • The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 12-year period. From 2005 to 2016, pit bulls killed 254 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 43, a citizen every 102 days (Related graph).
  • In 2016, the combination of pit bulls (22), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (2) contributed to 84% (26) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog cases involved dogs acquired in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
  • Labradors and their mixes contributed to 3 deaths in 2016, followed by 6 breeds, each with 2 deaths: American bulldog, Belgian malinois, doberman pinscher, German shepherd, mixed-breed, rottweiler and 2 cases with unreleased breed data.
  • Annual data from 2016 shows that 42% (13) of the fatality victims were children ages 9-years and younger and 58% (18) were adults, ages 30-years and older. Of the total adults killed by canines in 2016, pit bulls were responsible for 67% (12).
  • In 2016, female victims (16) were greater in number than male victims (15). Among children ages 9-years and younger, male deaths were greater, 62% vs. 38% and among adults 59-years and older, female deaths outpaced males, 75% vs. 25%.
  • In 2016, infants 3 to 6-days old accounted for 31% of all child deaths. In one case, a pit bull-mix was lying in bed with the baby and its parents when it attacked. The family had adopted the dog 5-months earlier from the San Diego Humane Society.
  • 42% (13) of all dog bite fatality victims in 2016 were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the fatal attack occurred, up from 32% in 2015. Of this subset of 13 fatalities, 77% (10) were inflicted by pit bulls.
  • In 2016, 32% (10) of attacks resulting in death involved a dog or person new to a household (0-2 month period). Children 9-years and younger accounted for 80% (8) of these deaths. Of this subset of 10 fatalities, 70% (7) were inflicted by pit bulls.
  • In 2016, 61% (19) of all fatalities involved more than one dog, up from the 11-year average of 44% (2005 to 2015). 35% (11) of all deaths involved 2 or 3 dogs and 26% (8) involved a pack attack of 4 or more dogs, up from the 11-year average of 14%.
  • 29% (9) of all dog bite fatalities in 2016 involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past; pit bulls accounted for 67% of these deaths. 3% (1) involved tethered dogs, down from the 11-year average of 10%.
  • Dog ownership information for 2016 shows that non-family dogs inflicted the majority of deaths, 55% (17). Of this subset, 59% (10) were inflicted by pit bulls. Conversely, only 19% (6) of attacks resulting in death occurred off the dog owner's property.
  • Family dogs inflicted 45% (14) of all deaths in 2016; family pit bulls accounted for 86% (12) of these deaths, up from an 11-year average of 63%. Of the 22 fatal pit bull attacks, 55% (12) involved a family or household member vs. 45% (10) non-family.
  • In 2016, only 6% (2) of all deadly attacks resulted in meaningful criminal charges; the lowest level on record.3 2016 also marked the first time a police officer's "personal" attack-trained K-9 killed a person; he was charged with two felonies.
  • California led all states in fatal attacks in 2016 incurring 6 deaths; 67% of these deaths were inflicted by pit bulls. Florida, North Carolina and Texas each followed with 3 deaths. South Carolina, a routine dog bite fatality state, incurred no deaths.
  • See: Discussion notes | See: Full news release
  • See: 12-Year U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Chart by Breed (2005 to 2016)
  • See: 12-Year U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Chart by Age Groups
  • See: 2016 Fatal Dog Attack Breed Identification Photographs
  • Social Media Graphic: 2016 U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Statistics
  • Social Media Graphic: 12-Year U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Chart by Breed

Death & Mauling Statistics for Niagara Falls, NY
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Washington Post: Dog mauls owner to death during interview with BBC film crew


A man in northern London died after being mauled by his dog during an interview with a BBC documentary crew at his home, British media reported Wednesday.

Mario Perivoitos, 41, was talking with journalists at the apartment complex in London’s Wood Green neighborhood where he lived, when his Staffordshire bull terrier pounced on him, biting his neck, according to the Guardian.

The BBC crew called emergency services, who rushed Perivoitos to the hospital. He was pronounced dead two hours later.

The attack occurred March 20. An autopsy performed several days later concluded that Perivoitos died of “hypovolemic shock and damage to the airway consistent with a dog bite,” according to the BBC.

Police described the journalists as a man in his 20s and a woman in her 30s. The BBC declined to say why they were talking with Perivoitos.

The BBC said in a statement: “A crew making a BBC documentary were present — but not filming — at the time of the incident and called an ambulance. Given the ongoing inquiries, it would not be appropriate to comment further.”

Several neighbors told British media said they witnessed Perivoitos struggling to free himself from the dog’s jaws.

“I heard shouting, ‘Get him off! Get him off me!'” neighbor Geoff Morgan told the BBC. “He was shouting really loudly. He was bleeding from his neck. There was a lot of blood.”

Another neighbor told the Guardian that the dog had attacked Perivoitos at least once in recent memory.

“Six or seven months ago the dog bit him on the leg,” said the neighbor, identified only as Tayfun. “We heard him shout at the dog and he came running out with blood on his leg.”

Still, Tayfun added, Perivoitos “loved the dog more than himself.”
 
What in the world is the average suburbanite/urbanite doing with a dog as capable as the bull breed dogs? These things aren't couch ornaments. They need more exercise than 99% of dog owners are willing to give and they're capable of killing a healthy fully grown man. This is something that at best is capable as being rational as a 3 year old human being.
 
Absurd, terrible, ignorant argument.


#1 DOG BITE STATISTICS RESOURCE
http://www.dogsbite.org/dogsbite-recent-dog-bite-statistics.php


Empirical studies demonstrating the acute predisposition to violence among Pitbulls:
  1. http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf
  2. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2610618/
  3. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235708
  4. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/coa.12094/abstract
  5. http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA381425
  6. http://blues.sabinet.co.za/WebZ/Aut...ext=images/ejour/m_samj/m_samj_v97_n8_a16.pdf
  7. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1424716/
  8. http://journals.lww.com/annalsofsur..._Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx

Logical refutations of popular Pitbull apogism
  • Why are owners so much more likely to be bad owners if they own pits?
  • Why are witnesses so much more likely to mis-identify Pits vs. other breeds based on visual inspection? Why does this mathematically skew only one way?
  • Why are Pits' raw murder and mauling figures so absurdly high disproportionate to other large breeds that are similarly popular?
  • Where is the evidence to substantiate any of these popular, casual colloquialisms? For example, if you give a reason for why Pit Bull owners are more likely to be bad owners, do you have evidence to substantiate that?
  • Ask yourself: why are all of these rationalizations only applied to the defense of Pits, and never for other dogs?

Pit bulls make up 6% of the dog population and are responsible for 68% of dog attacks and 52% of dog-related deaths since 1982 as reported in a TIME magazine story "The Problem With Pit Bulls" by Charlotte Alter, June 20, 2014.

An April 2011 issue of Annals of Surgery reported that "these breeds should be regulated in the same way other dangerous species, such as leopards, are regulated." That report was shared with Time magazine by PETA, the animal-rights organization.


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http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/12-year-dog-bite-fatality-chart-dogsbiteorg.pdf

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Dog Bite Statistics for 2016

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2016 dog bite fatalities
Statistical information gathered by DogsBite.org is verifiable1 through collected news reports. Our Fatality Citations section documents each source used in our dog bite-related fatality research.

2016 dog bite fatality statistics
  • 31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
  • Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 12-year period of 2005 to 2016.
  • The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 12-year period. From 2005 to 2016, pit bulls killed 254 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 43, a citizen every 102 days (Related graph).
  • In 2016, the combination of pit bulls (22), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (2) contributed to 84% (26) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog cases involved dogs acquired in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
  • Labradors and their mixes contributed to 3 deaths in 2016, followed by 6 breeds, each with 2 deaths: American bulldog, Belgian malinois, doberman pinscher, German shepherd, mixed-breed, rottweiler and 2 cases with unreleased breed data.
  • Annual data from 2016 shows that 42% (13) of the fatality victims were children ages 9-years and younger and 58% (18) were adults, ages 30-years and older. Of the total adults killed by canines in 2016, pit bulls were responsible for 67% (12).
  • In 2016, female victims (16) were greater in number than male victims (15). Among children ages 9-years and younger, male deaths were greater, 62% vs. 38% and among adults 59-years and older, female deaths outpaced males, 75% vs. 25%.
  • In 2016, infants 3 to 6-days old accounted for 31% of all child deaths. In one case, a pit bull-mix was lying in bed with the baby and its parents when it attacked. The family had adopted the dog 5-months earlier from the San Diego Humane Society.
  • 42% (13) of all dog bite fatality victims in 2016 were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the fatal attack occurred, up from 32% in 2015. Of this subset of 13 fatalities, 77% (10) were inflicted by pit bulls.
  • In 2016, 32% (10) of attacks resulting in death involved a dog or person new to a household (0-2 month period). Children 9-years and younger accounted for 80% (8) of these deaths. Of this subset of 10 fatalities, 70% (7) were inflicted by pit bulls.
  • In 2016, 61% (19) of all fatalities involved more than one dog, up from the 11-year average of 44% (2005 to 2015). 35% (11) of all deaths involved 2 or 3 dogs and 26% (8) involved a pack attack of 4 or more dogs, up from the 11-year average of 14%.
  • 29% (9) of all dog bite fatalities in 2016 involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past; pit bulls accounted for 67% of these deaths. 3% (1) involved tethered dogs, down from the 11-year average of 10%.
  • Dog ownership information for 2016 shows that non-family dogs inflicted the majority of deaths, 55% (17). Of this subset, 59% (10) were inflicted by pit bulls. Conversely, only 19% (6) of attacks resulting in death occurred off the dog owner's property.
  • Family dogs inflicted 45% (14) of all deaths in 2016; family pit bulls accounted for 86% (12) of these deaths, up from an 11-year average of 63%. Of the 22 fatal pit bull attacks, 55% (12) involved a family or household member vs. 45% (10) non-family.
  • In 2016, only 6% (2) of all deadly attacks resulted in meaningful criminal charges; the lowest level on record.3 2016 also marked the first time a police officer's "personal" attack-trained K-9 killed a person; he was charged with two felonies.
  • California led all states in fatal attacks in 2016 incurring 6 deaths; 67% of these deaths were inflicted by pit bulls. Florida, North Carolina and Texas each followed with 3 deaths. South Carolina, a routine dog bite fatality state, incurred no deaths.
  • See: Discussion notes | See: Full news release
  • See: 12-Year U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Chart by Breed (2005 to 2016)
  • See: 12-Year U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Chart by Age Groups
  • See: 2016 Fatal Dog Attack Breed Identification Photographs
  • Social Media Graphic: 2016 U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Statistics
  • Social Media Graphic: 12-Year U.S. Dog Bite Fatality Chart by Breed

Death & Mauling Statistics for Niagara Falls, NY
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Washington Post: Dog mauls owner to death during interview with BBC film crew


A man in northern London died after being mauled by his dog during an interview with a BBC documentary crew at his home, British media reported Wednesday.

Mario Perivoitos, 41, was talking with journalists at the apartment complex in London’s Wood Green neighborhood where he lived, when his Staffordshire bull terrier pounced on him, biting his neck, according to the Guardian.

The BBC crew called emergency services, who rushed Perivoitos to the hospital. He was pronounced dead two hours later.

The attack occurred March 20. An autopsy performed several days later concluded that Perivoitos died of “hypovolemic shock and damage to the airway consistent with a dog bite,” according to the BBC.

Police described the journalists as a man in his 20s and a woman in her 30s. The BBC declined to say why they were talking with Perivoitos.

The BBC said in a statement: “A crew making a BBC documentary were present — but not filming — at the time of the incident and called an ambulance. Given the ongoing inquiries, it would not be appropriate to comment further.”

Several neighbors told British media said they witnessed Perivoitos struggling to free himself from the dog’s jaws.

“I heard shouting, ‘Get him off! Get him off me!'” neighbor Geoff Morgan told the BBC. “He was shouting really loudly. He was bleeding from his neck. There was a lot of blood.”

Another neighbor told the Guardian that the dog had attacked Perivoitos at least once in recent memory.

“Six or seven months ago the dog bit him on the leg,” said the neighbor, identified only as Tayfun. “We heard him shout at the dog and he came running out with blood on his leg.”

Still, Tayfun added, Perivoitos “loved the dog more than himself.”

Don't worry. He'll find that one story where an English Cocker Spaniel bit off the ear of a comatosed quadriplegic infant so that we will ignore all of the substantiated and numerous commonly reported horrors against humanity that pitbulls committed against full grown and fully capable people.
 
I can see the mind of that councelman now....

“You know, I was thinking the other day, you know what this city really needs???
More pitbulls.”
 
I can see the mind of that councelman now....

“You know, I was thinking the other day, you know what this city really needs???
More pitbulls.”
I guess something has to keep the returning ISIS members in check.
 
I am not a dog guy. Frankly i am not a animal person period. But anyone that tells me a golden retriever and a pit bull are equally dangerous has no credibility to me on this issue. If Lassie bites me I am going to get some stitches and that is it and I am pretty sure I am going to snap Lassie's neck no problem. If a pit bull bites me I am probably never going to have full use of that limb again. .If it comes down to it I probably am going to kill the pit bull but not before i suffer some life changing injury.
 
A dog breed adopted by the hip hop culture to be viewed as a mean angry dog.

That is the image they are given and that's how hip hop followers raise them.

Lots of dog fighting goes on within some cultures where I am from.
 
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