MMA Referee Breaks Down Skelly-Moffett Stoppage, Instant Replay, What Refs Look For With Chokes

[Thickfreakness]

Should start on the segment. Around 62 mins 40 seconds in. He explains why he you can't judge the stoppage too much by a instant replay because of the other intagibles etc. But also feels he probably wasn't out.

 

[Arm Barbarian]

It was a tough call, but I don't think Skelly was out, as he was talking to the ref the very instant he stopped it, and he was trying to defend.

Felt bad for him there.

 

[beastman]

Let them take a little snooze

 

[DarkneT]

Was a bad call imo

Skelly was doing everything right

 

[chitoortiz]

You could tell that ref was sweating buckets watching the replays trying to decide what to do.

 

[ANIM4L]

The brain can go about a minute without oxygen, without damage. Some of these refs are too quick to end fights OR too negligent. Give the man more then a split second to make sure he's out.

 

[Verace]

I honestly think weve seen way more questionable calls.

This one was though as hell and the ref keeps getting shit on like it was the most obvious thing ever.

I thought he was out live honestly. I think it is an understandable mistake.

People just wanna be recreationally outraged with this tbh.

 

[chitoortiz]

The brain can go about a minute without oxygen, without damage. Some of these refs are too quick to end fights OR too negligent.

 

[sickness666]

A ref has to choose sometimes in the fraction of a second, that shit can happen. I also thought at first Skelly is out. But after he watched the replay it should have been a no contest. Here the guy has failed badly.

 

[Thickfreakness]

You could tell that ref was sweating buckets watching the replays trying to decide what to do.

That was hilarious!

 

[Kwic]

Can't really blame the ref on that call.
Tough one.
And I know Skelly wasn't out but it looked like he was going to sleep. You can just doze off "relaxing" your muscle and expect the ref to know. Give thumbs up at least.
On the other hand, ref should wait a bit longer for a reaction after grabbing Skelly's hand. He grabbed it and immediately stopped the fight.
But as I said, IMO can't blame the ref here.

 

[Thickfreakness]

Can't really blame the ref on that call.
Tough one.
And I know Skelly wasn't out but it looked like he was going to sleep. You can just doze off "relaxing" your muscle and expect the ref to know. Give thumbs up at least.
On the other hand, ref should wait a bit longer for a reaction after grabbing Skelly's hand. He grabbed it and immediately stopped the fight.
But as I said, IMO can't blame the ref here.

I'm sort of with you, very unlucky for the referee. Wrong call, but I don't think it was insanely bad.

 

[Toco]

Refs should only look for two things during a choke
1.a tapout
2. Fighter losing consciousness

That's it anything else is fucking stupid

this. if a ref is in doubt, just shake his arm, that's it

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Was a bad call imo

Skelly was doing everything right

If he was going everything right he wouldn't have gotten caught in the sub

 

[Kingz]

Refs should only look for two things during a choke
1.a tapout
2. Fighter losing consciousness

That's it anything else is fucking stupid

*2. When a fighter is unconscious

Looking if they were losing consciousness is how crap like Skelly and the Chieasa stoppages happen.

 

[DarkneT]

If he was going everything right he wouldn't have gotten caught in the sub

Stop posting shite

 

[Maga]

If the ref had looked the fighter in the eyes he would have seen that the man wan fully conscious and coherent. The ref knew he made a mistake as soon as he stopped it and should have owned up and made it a no contest. Skelly was IMMEDIATELY protesting and standing up we all know a fighter even close to going out will stumble and be dizzy when standing up as evidenced by a choke just a few minutes before Skelly' fight.
I am drawing a blank on who it was but he tapped, which means was not out and stood up stumbling across the cage. Skelly didn't miss a beat protesting and I believe that ref shouldn't be an official for mma anymore as he showed his inability to make the right call twice on the same mistake.

 

[B0mbSquad]

In the Animal kingdom, when snake strangles mammal, relaxation occurs upon the realization of demise. The body loses tension, thoughts become detached and euphoric. These men are animals.

Skelly's arm flopped like a wet noodle. If the ref thinks you're out and moves your arm, in response to which it flops like a wet noodle, he's going to stop the fight. The onus is on the fighter to be convincingly defending.