MMA Has evolved so much in the last ten years(2008 vs 2018)

[3sumrock]

2008 BW:
1: Miguel Torres30-1-0. 2: Manny Tapia8-0-1. 3: Eddie Wineland11-4-1
4: Ryota Matsune15-1-1. 5: Atsushi Yamamoto9-3-3.
2018 BW:
Champion : TJ Dillashaw1 Cody Garbrandt 2 Dominick Cruz 3 Raphael Assuncao 4 Jimmie Rivera
Is pretty obvious that current bw division is better.

2008 FW:
1 Urijah Faber2 Masakazu Imanari 3Jong Man Kim 4 Hatsu Hioki
5Wagnney Fabiano
2018 FW:
Champion : Max Holloway 1 Jose Aldo 2 Frankie Edgar 3 Brian Ortega 4 Cub Swanson 5 Jeremy Stephens
Current Fw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2008 FW

2008 LW:
1: Takanori Gomi 2: Sean Sherk 3: Shinya Aoki 5: B.J. Penn
2018 LW:
Champion : Conor McGregor1 Tony Ferguson (Interim Champion) 2 Khabib Nurmagomedov
3 Eddie Alvarez 4 Edson Barboza
Mcgregor barboza >>>>> gomi. Khabib >>>>>> Sean Sherk + aoki. Tony > bj penn

2008 WW >= 2018 WW
2018 MW >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2008 MW(obvious)

2008 LHW:
1 Quinton Jackson 2 Chuck Liddell 3 Keith Jardine 4 Lyoto Machida 5 Dan Henderson
2018 LHW:
Champion : Daniel Cormier 1 Alexander Gustafsson 2 Volkan Oezdemir 3 Glover Teixeira 4 Jimi Manuwa
Dc > rampage. Gus >>> Liddell. Volkan >>> Keith. Machida > glover. Manuwa > hendo

2007 HW:
1: Fedor Emelianenko 2: Mirko Filipovic 3: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 4:Tim Sylvia 5:Josh Barnett.
2018 HW:
Champion : Stipe Miocic 1 Francis Ngannou 2 Alistair Overeem 3 Fabricio Werdum 4 Cain Velasquez
5 Curtis Blaydes

1: Stipe > fedor: stipe is much more skilled and more technical than fedor.fedor is brawler with no footwork that throw wild punches which leave himself open.the only reason why he succeed is because of his speed, athleticism,HW and how young mma was back then.stipe on other hand is much more skilled on feet.way better technical boxing,way better footwork and headmovement
2: Overeem > cro cop: this one is easy.tell me who's the best "HW" striker cro cop beat? Cro cop only good against stationary fighter and grappler.he always loss to good hw striker like frank mir,Gonzaga,mark hunt,Kongo,schaub,nelson and Jds on feet.
3: current werdum > big nog: werdum got better bjj,muay Thai and boxing,he's also faster and got better striking defense
4: cain >>>>>> Barnett:
5: ngannou >> Sylvia

 

[AimedWithV]

2008 BW:
1: Miguel Torres30-1-0. 2: Manny Tapia8-0-1. 3: Eddie Wineland11-4-1
4: Ryota Matsune15-1-1. 5: Atsushi Yamamoto9-3-3.
2018 BW:
Champion : TJ Dillashaw1 Cody Garbrandt 2 Dominick Cruz 3 Raphael Assuncao 4 Jimmie Rivera
Is pretty obvious that current bw division is better.

2008 FW:
1 Urijah Faber2 Masakazu Imanari 3Jong Man Kim 4 Hatsu Hioki
5Wagnney Fabiano
2018 FW:
Champion : Max Holloway 1 Jose Aldo 2 Frankie Edgar 3 Brian Ortega 4 Cub Swanson 5 Jeremy Stephens
Current Fw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2008 FW

2008 LW:
1: Takanori Gomi 2: Sean Sherk 3: Shinya Aoki 5: B.J. Penn
2018 LW:
Champion : Conor McGregor1 Tony Ferguson (Interim Champion) 2 Khabib Nurmagomedov
3 Eddie Alvarez 4 Edson Barboza
Mcgregor barboza >>>>> gomi. Khabib >>>>>> Sean Sherk + aoki. Tony > bj penn

2008 WW >= 2018 WW
2018 MW >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2008 MW(obvious)

2008 LHW:
1 Quinton Jackson 2 Chuck Liddell 3 Keith Jardine 4 Lyoto Machida 5 Dan Henderson
2018 LHW:
Champion : Daniel Cormier 1 Alexander Gustafsson 2 Volkan Oezdemir 3 Glover Teixeira 4 Jimi Manuwa
Dc > rampage. Gus >>> Liddell. Volkan >>> Keith. Machida > glover. Manuwa > hendo

2007 HW:
1: Fedor Emelianenko 2: Mirko Filipovic 3: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 4:Tim Sylvia 5:Josh Barnett.
2018 HW:
Champion : Stipe Miocic 1 Francis Ngannou 2 Alistair Overeem 3 Fabricio Werdum 4 Cain Velasquez
5 Curtis Blaydes

1: Stipe > fedor: stipe is much more skilled and more technical than fedor.fedor is brawler with no footwork that throw wild punches which leave himself open.the only reason why he succeed is because of his speed, athleticism,HW and how young mma was back then.stipe on other hand is much more skilled on feet.way better technical boxing,way better footwork and headmovement
2: Overeem > cro cop: this one is easy.tell me who's the best "HW" striker cro cop beat? Cro cop only good against stationary fighter and grappler.he always loss to good hw striker like frank mir,Gonzaga,mark hunt,Kongo,schaub,nelson and Jds on feet.
3: current werdum > big nog: werdum got better bjj,muay Thai and boxing,he's also faster and got better striking defense
4: cain >>>>>> Barnett:
5: ngannou >> Sylvia

Mostly it's nice.

But:

1. BJ Penn - you're VASTLY underrating him. Cuckuy does not come even close.

2. LHW and HW - you should compare 2009 and 2010 instead. Brock Lesnar, Machida - many more quality guys came.

 

[jk7707]

I mean you can say this about any major sport. 10 years is more than a career for all but the best guys.

 

[Substance Abuse]

It's very easy to underrate the past without context and looking at things without insight and in past tense.

The OP sucks ass.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

And yet I'd rather watch 2008.

 

[3sumrock]

Mostly it's nice.

But:

1. BJ Penn - you're VASTLY underrating him. Cuckuy does not come even close.

2. LHW and HW - you should compare 2009 and 2010 instead. Brock Lesnar, Machida - many more quality guys came.

I'm comparing 2007 hw to 2018 hw is because many pride fans think hw back then is much better but when in reality is not.

 

[Gluhov]

there was no wmma in 2008 ufc. 2008 wins.

 

[YellowBanenoo]

Mostly it's nice.

But:

1. BJ Penn - you're VASTLY underrating him. Cuckuy does not come even close.

2. LHW and HW - you should compare 2009 and 2010 instead. Brock Lesnar, Machida - many more quality guys came.

Bj is one of the most overrated fighters in mma history. Furgie showed better performance consistently against tough competition.

 

[3sumrock]

It's very easy to underrate the past without context and looking at things without insight and in past tense.

The OP sucks ass.

Agree.2008 Bw,fw,LW,MW and LHW was way more stacked than current ones.

 

[AimedWithV]

I'm comparing 2007 hw to 2018 hw is because many pride fans think hw back then is much better but when in reality is not.

2007 broke our heart...don't pour salt on our wounds.

It took a couple of years to understand real worth of Pride warriors against UFC

 

[AimedWithV]

Bj is one of the most overrated fighters in mma history. Furgie showed better performance consistently against tough competition.

If you really think that BJ's competition wasn't way, way tougher than Cuckuy's, you're probably too young to post here.

Please report to your big brother that you're using his computer, little girl.

 

[Thad Castle v2]

there were alot of PRIDE guys that were overrated like Gomi and cro cop

 

[3sumrock]

If you really think that BJ's competition wasn't way, way tougher than Cuckuy's, you're probably too young to post here.

Please report to your big brother that you're using his computer, little girl.

Who's the best fighter bj beat? Matt Hughes? Lmao

 

[AimedWithV]

Who's the best fighter bj beat? Matt Hughes? Lmao

Matt Hughes was, for a huge amount of years, THE BEST P4P FIGHTER IN THE WORLD.
And BJ dethroned him.

Learn your history, kid,

You don't understand MMA at all

 

[3sumrock]

Matt Hughes was, for a huge amount of years, THE BEST P4P FIGHTER IN THE WORLD.
And BJ dethroned him.

Learn your history, kid,

You don't understand MMA at all

Matt hughes was good in his era but the sports has evolved so much since then.
Rda >>> Matt Hughes

 

[Flokk]

 

[Kassitus]

Skill level increased by a small margin that makes a big difference at the highest level. Its cool but i dont think id call it evolution.

 

[Sakuraba7]

There was barely a BW and FW division back then.

 

[Typrune Goatley]

The lighter divisions have improved but LHW and HW are more shallow than ever. LHW is a barren wasteland and HW is full of 40 years old zombies from the PRIDE era and some rookies with only a few years of training. These divisions were definitely deeper and more talented a decade ago.

LHW in 2007:

Machida
Shogun
Rampage
Chuck
Rashad
Wanderlei
Forrest
Hendo
Lil Nog
Tito
Thiago
Jardine
Bader
Coleman
Randleman
Overeem
Arona

LHW in 2018:

Gus
Bader
Davis
Volkan
old Glover
Latifi
Manuwa
Zombie Shogun
OSP
Corey Anderson

HW in 2008:

Fedor
Nog
Cro Cop
Barnett
Werdum
Sergei
Aleks
Hunt
Randy
Arlovski
Sylvia
Mir
Bigfoot
Brock
Herring
Overeem
Kongo
Nelson
Rothwell
Rizzo
Gonzaga

HW in 2018:

Stipe
Minakov
40 year old Werdum
No chin 40 year old Overeem
Francis Nogroundgameo
Black Beast with no grappling
44 year old Hunt
Curtis Blaydes
Volkov
Tybura
40 year old Arlovski

 

[3sumrock]

The lighter divisions have improved but LHW and HW are more shallow than ever. LHW is a barren wasteland and HW is full of 40 years old zombies from the PRIDE era and some rookies with only a few years of training. These divisions were definitely deeper and more talented a decade ago.

LHW in 2007:

Machida
Shogun
Rampage
Chuck
Rashad
Wanderlei
Forrest
Hendo
Jardine
Lil Nog
Tito
Thiago
Jardine
Bader
Randleman
Overeem
Arona

LHW in 2018:

Gus
Bader
Davis
Volkan
old Glover
Latifi
Manuwa
Zombie Shogun
OSP
Corey Anderson

HW in 2008:

Fedor
Nog
Cro Cop
Barnett
Werdum
Sergei
Aleks
Hunt
Randy
Arlovski
Sylvia
Mir
Bigfoot
Brock
Herring
Kongo
Nelson
Rothwell
Rizzo
Gonzaga

HW in 2018:

Stipe
Minakov
40 year old Werdum
No chin 40 year old Overeem
Francis Nogroundgameo
Black Beast with no grappling
44 year old Hunt
Curtis Blaydes
Volkov
Tybura
40 year old Arlovski

40 year old werdum? Current werdum is the most evolved version
40 year old Overeem? Current Overeem is the most technical Overeem we've ever seen.way better than 2008 one
Francis nogroundgameo? At least Better than Kongo,Bigfoot,Sylvia,arlovski,Sergei,and Barnett.
Stipe,current werdum,current Overeem > cro cop,big nog and fedor
2018 lhw > 2008 lhw