TheApotheosis**
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This is the way it looks to me.
Guys like the Diaz bro's are ridiculed for wanting better pay from the $3.5 billion worth company, even tho the diaz bros are perhaps the essence of what Ultimate Fighting really is so they deserve great pay.
Anytime fighter pay comes up, everyone says that they are getting paid fine.....even tho if you sum up the whole Fighters Salaries in a year, it probably is not more than what Floyd gets in one fight which is around $30 million.
There is something wrong with the pay when 1 boxer does more than your whole roster in one fight.
I understand MMA is new and growing but the success of the UFC is very big. They are a money making machine.
UFC is way bigger than GoldenBoyPromotions and whatever help Showtime provided, but yet Goldenboypromotions pays way better.
Canelo:6-12 million
Alfredo Angulo: $750,000
Leo Santa Cruz: $500,000
Cristian Mijares: $92,000.
Carlos Molina: $275,000
Jermall Charlo: $100,000.
Jorge Linares: $50,000
Nihito Arakawa: $ 50,000
For a 350k PPV Card, (the no names got paid pretty damn good)....Sure there is more MMA fights in one card..So Add up their whole pay, then compare it to a 350k PPV UFC card, and you will see it's not even close to boxer pay...Hell Canelo beat GSP according to Rogans numbers, and GSP sells way more PPV's.
So the Diaz bro's have a point....how can Leo Santa Cruz get $500k but Nick Diaz, somebody more famous/ in a way richer promotion not get more than that? But yet the MMA fans ridicule them for not wanting to fight.
It's not just the fans who side with UFC.
Most MMA fighters come from nonmoney sports like BJJ/Wrestling/JUDO/Karate/etc. So I feel most MMA Fighters feel lucky that the UFC exist that they can make a decent living out of it.
This is why most MMA fighters ass kiss the UFC, it's not just because it's the #1 org but because they truly feel lucky that they can make a living....Prizefighters aka boxers don't just want to make a living, they want to make that Tyson/Mayweather money.
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@31:45, Dana White mentions how he is against paying fighters ($20-$40 million) aka boxer pay...He mentions the pay ruined boxing because it made boxers fight a boring fight that they just managed to win.
Obviously he is referring to Floyd Mayweather, claiming he does just enough to win which is BS, he usually wins by a huge margin. Mike Tyson got paid that much as well, and he was exciting as hell...Pacquiao is exciting as hell too...So dana's logic is clearly flawed.
His example is "Imagine if you made $37 million guranteed!, you wouldn't care about your school/job".
So According to Dana, you shouldn't pay fighters too much because you want them to be incentivize.
So I guess never expect more than $5-$8 million for top PPV fighters....you dont want them to be too rich, you want them to stay hungry
The UFC knows how passive MMA fighters are about pay so they take advantage of them by paying them peanuts.
The UFC knows the Fans are a bunch of sheep who are on the side of the company living their ArmChair CEO dream defending the UFC every move of screwing the fighters over.
So why should the UFC change? The MMA culture is all sided for the greedy business.
Guys like the Diaz bro's are ridiculed for wanting better pay from the $3.5 billion worth company, even tho the diaz bros are perhaps the essence of what Ultimate Fighting really is so they deserve great pay.
Anytime fighter pay comes up, everyone says that they are getting paid fine.....even tho if you sum up the whole Fighters Salaries in a year, it probably is not more than what Floyd gets in one fight which is around $30 million.
There is something wrong with the pay when 1 boxer does more than your whole roster in one fight.
I understand MMA is new and growing but the success of the UFC is very big. They are a money making machine.
UFC is way bigger than GoldenBoyPromotions and whatever help Showtime provided, but yet Goldenboypromotions pays way better.
Canelo:6-12 million
Alfredo Angulo: $750,000
Leo Santa Cruz: $500,000
Cristian Mijares: $92,000.
Carlos Molina: $275,000
Jermall Charlo: $100,000.
Jorge Linares: $50,000
Nihito Arakawa: $ 50,000
For a 350k PPV Card, (the no names got paid pretty damn good)....Sure there is more MMA fights in one card..So Add up their whole pay, then compare it to a 350k PPV UFC card, and you will see it's not even close to boxer pay...Hell Canelo beat GSP according to Rogans numbers, and GSP sells way more PPV's.
So the Diaz bro's have a point....how can Leo Santa Cruz get $500k but Nick Diaz, somebody more famous/ in a way richer promotion not get more than that? But yet the MMA fans ridicule them for not wanting to fight.
It's not just the fans who side with UFC.
Most MMA fighters come from nonmoney sports like BJJ/Wrestling/JUDO/Karate/etc. So I feel most MMA Fighters feel lucky that the UFC exist that they can make a decent living out of it.
This is why most MMA fighters ass kiss the UFC, it's not just because it's the #1 org but because they truly feel lucky that they can make a living....Prizefighters aka boxers don't just want to make a living, they want to make that Tyson/Mayweather money.
[YT]94w2lwU-To0[/YT]
@31:45, Dana White mentions how he is against paying fighters ($20-$40 million) aka boxer pay...He mentions the pay ruined boxing because it made boxers fight a boring fight that they just managed to win.
Obviously he is referring to Floyd Mayweather, claiming he does just enough to win which is BS, he usually wins by a huge margin. Mike Tyson got paid that much as well, and he was exciting as hell...Pacquiao is exciting as hell too...So dana's logic is clearly flawed.
His example is "Imagine if you made $37 million guranteed!, you wouldn't care about your school/job".
So According to Dana, you shouldn't pay fighters too much because you want them to be incentivize.
So I guess never expect more than $5-$8 million for top PPV fighters....you dont want them to be too rich, you want them to stay hungry
The UFC knows how passive MMA fighters are about pay so they take advantage of them by paying them peanuts.
The UFC knows the Fans are a bunch of sheep who are on the side of the company living their ArmChair CEO dream defending the UFC every move of screwing the fighters over.
So why should the UFC change? The MMA culture is all sided for the greedy business.
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