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Mma can exist without wrestling.

Discussion in 'The Lightweights' started by ReasonableMMAFan, Jul 29, 2016.

  1. ReasonableMMAFan Banned Banned

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    People often say wrestling is extremely important to mma and the most important base art to have. This is 100% false. The original mma sport, Kudo, is a mix of Karate and Judo and zero wrestling. It's all takedowns, submissions and strikes. No cage humping allowed. Also, MMA needs to get rid of cages AND rings. Promotions should start using rope less platforms like Olympic Judo, Karate, Kudo, that one kickboxing promotion Chuck Norris ran, etc...

    Get rid of wrestling. It's worthless, boring and NOT fighting.
     
  2. First, how are you defining wrestling? Second, how do you set up submissions without wrestling in your example? All standing submissions? Third, if Kudo already exists why change mma?

    Your username is pretty ironic imo.
     
  3. McgreGOATsLeft alone

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    No, your ass needs to be in the kickboxing business.
     
  4. Ez Eric Amateur Fighter

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    You need to go join your high school wrestling team
     
  5. Ranger I'm getting too old for this sht

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  6. wilKO Green, White & Gold belt

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    You just need to be able to throw overhands and be able to hold on for a stand up when youre taken down. That is MMA.
     
  7. McgreGOATsLeft alone

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    I second this.
     
  8. theincognito Brown Belt

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    I guess you were not around five or six years ago when lay and pray was a lot more prevalent. Has not happened much lately besides Cormier on Silva.
     
  9. ReasonableMMAFan Banned Banned

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    How? It's called Judo, motherfucker! You throw a bitch around and send them flying! Not boring wrestling.
     
  10. mjoln Green Belt

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    Get rid of walking and head movement. Worthless, boring and NOT fighting
     
  11. JustBleed69 Touch-Butt Coral Belt

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    Even then, Silva just has excellent GnP defense.

    Can't tell if srs or trolling
     
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  13. Lyoto Jackson Purple Belt

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    Silva was doing the laying-and-praying, but holding the lockdown and praying for a stand up.
     
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  15. kumitechamp Purple Belt

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    meh lets just give them swords. There in not much clinching or grappling involved in sword fights.
     
  16. Lyoto Jackson Purple Belt

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    Then what happens?
     
  17. Can doesn't mean it should.
     
  18. Slapchoppin Black Belt

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    and then when someone who doesn't know wrestling gets double legged they're fucked because they never learned how to wrestle
     
  19. Kuldar Yellow Belt

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    As a former judo practicioner and a turd with a couple amateur mma fights... You have no idea what you're talking about.
    A striking equivalent:
    "man to hell with all these boring straight punches and thai style kicks, i only want to see flying superman punches and spinning $hi* from tawkwondo, mma can exist without boxing and muay thai"

    The best approach to mma is evolving and changing constantly. If you'd like to find out what works best, look at a few fights.
    Good to have you onboard i wish you much fun getting to know this wonderful sport called MMA.
     
  20. FarmerBurns White Belt

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    Kudo, the best martial art. Most of the UFC champs started with Kudo and no one has ever trained wrestling...
     

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