I find the contempt shown to Rener and Ryron absurd. These are two exceptional bjj stylists who are very articulate, intelligent, and respectful. They have good values and ridiculous jiu jitsu. If you are against their product because of the online belt thing, try to keep that separate from the quality of their bjj and analysis. Their instruction is tremendous and they're good folks. You can't reasonably deny that. Those of you who find yourself hatin, that's not a good sign. With all the baggage in our sport, aiming your sour grapes at the good guys only holds us back.