Miocic vs Prime Crocop

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  1. firstroundpick

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    lmao at all the idiots that think stipe is not croatian because he was born in the us... morons its all about the blood not the language or where you were born
     
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  2. MMACroatia

    MMACroatia Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    What a bullshit to say.
    When did he break in his prime?Fedor?Nothing to do with breaking but just being inferior to his opponent(like guess what everyone were vs Fedor).
    Stipe is too slow for prime Mirko,awful stylistic match up.
     
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  3. Final Say

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    Every fighter has bad losses, especially when they fought somebody too early or too late.
    It’s the best right now.

    stipe, dc and francis would be near the top of the division and in the title picture at any time period

    to be clear, so would fedor, and likely guys like cro cop and Nog as well, although I think they’d have more trouble with even the werdums and overeems of modern times
     
  4. Hercegovac

    Hercegovac Ephesians 6:12 Hebrews 13:2

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    Ummm that fight with Hunt when he mentally asked for the cheque, ran way from hunt and looking up at the clock LOL. Plus that look on his face. Cc general disposition to not being filmed, take into account guys like fedor and stipe.who.arent bothered by this. a lot of guys don't speak Croatian but I do and whenever the cameras on him he asked for it to be moved away or he feels uncomfortable. Just douche chills all around. Or that time nog was on top of him and cc looks at the ref and gets mounted and subbed. Or when he comes out to fight Frank Mir and he's looking at the shopping carts instead of the fight that's in front of him, seemed he wasn't there mentally.

    Contrast with stipe whos way more headstrong and actually gets STRONGER as the fight goes on rather than dwindle like cc. All this leads me to say stipe would beat cc.
     
  5. NoBiasJustMMA

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    Stipe might be more mentally tough than CC(you are making a lot of assumptions though based on CC looking at things) but he's not as skilled of a striker and he is unlikely to be able to take down a prime Cro Cop. I don't think Stipe wins a striking match with Cro Cop and I don't think he would be able to outgrapple him either.

    Barnett is mentally tougher than Cro Cop but he lost every time he fought him.
     
  6. MMACroatia

    MMACroatia Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Let me get this straight,you believe a guy who was in special police unit is mentally weak?
    He was buying time vs Hunt because he most likely felt he was winning and imo he probably did win that fight,top control at the end sealed it.
    So what if he asks camera to be removed?Not everyone are Kardashians,how weird that some people dont like cameras and constant attention.
    With Mir he wasn't in prime and we are talking about prime Mirko here.
    Funny how you just ignore his mental weakness vs Gonzaga where he was down 2 rounds,spent lot of the fight on his back and yet came back to kick his ass.Is that sign of mental weakness?
     
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  7. PalmStrike

    PalmStrike Brown Belt

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    Cro Cop by short, straight left hand.
     
  8. MartinGibson86

    MartinGibson86 Brown Belt

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    Fedor, Nog, Barnett, Mir, Cain, Stipe, Rothwell, Reem, Sergei, Werdum, JDS, Francis, Hunto, Oletnik, Big Country, Couture,

    Again, name one relevant Japanese HW anywhere in the world.

    Your post speaks to the corruption of Pride, not the proficiency of Japanese HWs.

    Wander Btaga
     
  9. Janne1

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    Better Croatian? Stipe's 100% born and raised American.
     
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  10. Hercegovac

    Hercegovac Ephesians 6:12 Hebrews 13:2

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    I said as compared to stipe. Nowhere did I say CC was weak in a vacuum. My statement must be taken in context as related to stipe's mental game. In that regard they're simply not at the same level.

    When the fight gets in a deep Waters CC tends to deteriorate. Stipe gets better as the rounds go on, has a way better chin, can get poked in the eyes and keep coming forward. Cc is like rumble Johnson, or any other fast twitched power strikers, who tend to fade as the later rounds come into play.
     
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  11. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    You have Big Ben, Roy, Oleynik... ahead of Coleman & Igor, legacy-wise?
     
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    Hed go him too. That's what makes stipe awesome.
     
  15. cmw43

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    What skills does Stipe have that prime Crocop hadn't seen?

    He's a boxer/wrestler that's it.
     
  16. cmw43

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    Prime Stipe has been caught before as well.
     
  17. cmw43

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    Good thing Stipe is invincible.

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  18. Grenades

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    I might be wrong but but CC never beat any Olympians.
     
  19. MartinGibson86

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    I didnt mean to post that but yes, Big Ben is definitely ahead of Coleman. I don't place much emphasis on winning a "title" 5 years after the sport's inception. Big Ben has like 50 fights and has been a relevant HW for a very long time amidst a much deeper talent pool.

    Igor gou could place ahead of Roy and Oletnik if strictly talking legacy (he'd lose badly to both)
     
  20. Mirko Plat Cop Perry

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    Cro Cop teaching his son the left high kick. I think this deserves it's own thread. Someone make it happen
     
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