This is TWO threads about the same thing now. Let me guess, you're arguing with some dumbass in a TMA forum or some dumbass in a Krav Maga or self defense forum who gets a boner thinking about Marines right? Those self defense numbnuts never fight, not even spar hard with KO power. All they have to gauge real combat by is by watching movies, hearing stories told by Marines at bars while their eyes are gleaming with interest like a fat chick hoping to get lucky that night and other dumbshit experiences like getting tapped in the throat while training SD and thinking it's the end to all, nuclear weapon of fighting techs because it hurts so much.
Marines and other soldiers who aren't trained, other than from their Service, will usually not disclose that they're soldiers when they come into fighting gyms; mostly because they know people may target them (to say that they kicked a Marine's ass) or that they'd have to maintain some higher standards, mostly due to such BS mystique about them being perpetuated by these male cheerleaders, but also by themselves too.
Some dumbass on Martial Talk or whatever was telling me about how awesome Marines were, trained to kill with their bare hands and not like BS MMA, which is only sports fighting. I showed them 3 videos of Marine's MCMAP brown belts sparring on YouTube which looked like sloppy kickboxing....and they banned me.