Mike Winkeljohn: Fedor is an easy fight for Jon Jones or Andrei Arlovski

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  1. Jblizzle

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    Mike Winkeljohn: Fedor is an easy fight for Jon Jones or Andrei Arlovski

    What are your thoughts
     
  2. FromTheSouth

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    I think Arlovski would see Jesus again if he fights Theodore. Jones on the other hand would be a difficult fight for him
     
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    I think Mike forgot about the first AA fight.
     
  5. 2wop

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    Fedor would kill Andrei and ko that crack fiend.
     
  6. closetfighter

    closetfighter rollin' in the derp

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    You're kidding yourself if you think that version of Fedor exists today. Guy has lost the fire to compete at the highest level.
     
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    in b4 arlovski face plant
     
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    To be fair, Jones would finish him within a round.
     
  9. Spoonman7

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    it is obvious by the pictures we have seen of Fedor that he has been training. We do not know with who and if any of his skills have diminished or grown. I do want to see Fedor fight a few of the heavyweights out there right now.
     
  10. Prince Nephilim

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    There are people that actually think Fedor can beat Jon Jones at this point?

    Jones curb stomps Fedor at whatever weight. I love me some Fedor but Jones is the truth! People forgot what HENDO did to Fedor that quick? Now all the sudden Fedor beats JON JONES...MMA Goat
     
  11. Szwok

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    So easy in fact AA won their first meeting with ease!!!

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    yes!!
     
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    Fedor has no answer for the eye pokes. Remove the eye pokes and Fedor smashes Jones.
     
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    Coach wink be working on extra special eye pokes for fedor.
     
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    AA's more counter-heavy now, but slower and less explosive than when they fought in 09. That's why he looks poorer against fighters who don't engage him than against the ones who do. If Fedor comes in recklessly AA's chances go up tenfold, but if he's patient his punching power & defense gives him too many chances to KO AA, who loses because of his chin.

    Jones would be too much for Fedor now in so many areas. That would've been fun prime vs prime.
     
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    Jones would kill the current version of Fedor.

    Arlovski would still lose IMO
     
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    To be fair, until that stupid knee AA was giving Fedor the business.
     
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    the hell?? nothing significant was even happening in that fight
     
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    I love Fedor as much as the next guy and that's one of my favorite KOs. But Andrei was sticking it to him pretty decently before the KO

    Edit: somebody beat me to saying it
     
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    Dunno about AA, but JJ would fustigate him.:)
     
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    It's kind of crazy that everyone forgets that
     
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    Do people realize it's soon to be 2016?
     
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    Um, Jones might have a better shot than AA imo. I think Fedor would KO AA again
     
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    Andrei is literally the same fighter he was back then except slower and less athletic. The only that hes changed are backfists after his right hands that make him less vulnerable after throwing since he is still 99% a right handed fighter that almost never throws his left. The fact that Frank fucking Mir could stand in front of him for seconds with his hands down while Andrei was probing with his left was telling.

    And Andreis "success" over Fedor in the 1st fight is a myth by noobs i thought was dead now. Everyone was going crazy live but when u saw the replay he was barely touching Fedor with his strikes just had him reacting with his output. Almost all of his strikes missed or didnt land clean because of Fedors head movement and footwork. Everyone knows Fedor has paper mache skin and gets cut/bleeds easy but after the fight his face was completely clean

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    Huh, so Mike is basically saying that Andrei is Thick, Strong, Tight?
     
  26. bjpenngoat

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    the question is that do you believe that Fedor has substantially MORE power than TRT vitor, Glover and DC? I dont think so at this point, idk maybe im wrong. But if Bones mitigated those guys, Ithink he would certainly be able to mitigate Fedors power. As for speed, I think a 40 yr old Fedor is way slower than kettlebell fedor, however I still think at 40 he is way faster than any of those with the exception of trtvitor. Interesting fight on paper, but at thispoint Bones would keep him 84inches away all night and cruise to a uni.
     
  27. Drake

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    This thread is going exactly where I thought it would :)
     
  28. MMun

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    If Arlovski is strong from his Sambo days, what is Fedor then?
     
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    hahaha, love it
     
  30. FacePlantingPro

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    Jones would destroy Fedor like he did Shogun.

    AA would get knocked out again... he would go for the flying knee once more... For reasons no one knows.
     
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    And of course the guys not going to say my guy would loose, hes going to defend his fighters.
     
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    it was a competitive fight the first they met for a few minutes then aa went to sleep.. so..
     
  33. molest

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    Jones would dismantle Fedor at this point, but Andre still hasn't improved his defense that much, i mean Schaub arguably beat him on the feet.
     
  34. rakeleaves

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    Well he wasn't. Andrei's shots were getting parried and dodged and nobody landed anything real clean before the KO blow.

    Also, how many flying knees have MMA fighters pulled off where we go "woah, that was awesome." There difference is Fedor had the skillset and timing to punish Arlovski for trying it, unlike most MMA fighters.
     
  35. PrincesaZelda

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    I agree. Arlovski was running a clinic on Fedor the first time they fought. Since then Arlovski has improved, and Fedor has faded.
     
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    Jones easily beats Fedor, AA is 50/50 depending on what Fedor looks like in a return.
     
  37. KillerElite

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    AA may beat him but the JAW is the factor and I love AA but the way he fell was awesome. Jon Jones would kill Fedor.
     
  38. moreorless87

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    I think this badly undervalues how good Fedor's counter was. This wasn't a slow and sloppy knee like say Babalu vs Lambert where an opponent had the position and the time to land a counter thrown whilst his opponent was in mid air. Arlovski actually sets it up well with Fedor trapped in the corner and at the right range then gets into the air very quickly.

    Fedor is only able to counter him because he picks it out well before Arlovski gets into the air, he's actually only just off the ground when it lands. If he doesn't throw the punch that early its going to be next to impossible to counter and the knee itself is potentially very dangerous.
     
  39. mma midwest fan

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    A trainer picking his fighters to win? What is this world coming to?
     
  40. KingOfThePikeys

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    Completely agree. Both of these guys would smoke Fedor. Arlovski would do it in under a round, Jones would probably require 3 or 4 rounds to break him.
     

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