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Middleweight is a pretty weird division to rank an all time top ten for

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  1. XThe GreatestX Silver Belt

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    title.

    So was thinking about this. If i was to rank the ten best middleweights ever based on resume (185 pounds not Pride's MW weight)

    1. Anderson Silva. pretty clearly.....

    and then two is probably...Henderson I guess or maybe Izzy if you think highly of this last era of guys?

    and then after that it's a glob of guys. Izzy, Weidman, Vitor, Jacare, Whittaker, Rockhold, Romero, Maia, Bisping, Chael, Franklin, Nate, Mousasi etc.

    But not much separating 3-10
     
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  2. Clementine Hug Connoisseur

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    Kinda true yeah :eek:
    Anderson was dominant for so long and his fall left the division in the Dark Ages.

    Silva = Rome :)
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  3. MartiniSIDe Purple Belt

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    For me

    1. Anderson
    2. Izzy
    3. Henderson
    4. Bobby Knuckles (will finish 2 or 3 by the end of his career)
    5. Weidman
    6. Rich
    7. Vitor
    8. Yoel
    9. Moussasi
    10. Jacare

    But yeah, the bottom half is interchangeable depending on how you look at it.
     
  4. XThe GreatestX Silver Belt

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    to be brutally honest. he was a good fighter

    but at this point I think Rich has been pretty clearly surpassed. resume wise in particular
     
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  5. MartiniSIDe Purple Belt

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    I agree

    I gave him this spot because he was The Man before Anderson and would probably have kept that spot for a while. But yeah, you could easily argue he's lower than that.
     
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    Now imagine if you were someone who disqualifies PED users from the conversation. That would really make this difficult
     
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    Before Anderson, the main dudes of the division also jumped weight classes a lot, which makes it hard to contextualize the history sometimes
     
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    Do we throw Shields in here? He beat Hendo and Lawler at MW and was the SF champ. He also failed a PED test and claims it was a diuretic (big deal).

    Including PED issues in this division is quite the confusing puzzle. Even Hendo was a TRT dude
     
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  9. Kenny Powerth Jean Belt (Jelt)

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    Moussasi is top 3, possibly GOAT if you take out PED abusers
     
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  10. XThe GreatestX Silver Belt

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    you could. his thing would be he had what? 4 fights at middleweight?
     
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    Here's another guy who's though to judge when you consider only one division.
     
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  12. Doctor Stoppage Finishing Fights via Disappointment Platinum Member

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    I think so. It was in SF just to avoid fighting Nick. I guess it isn't worth him being in the MW discussion with such a short tenure even though it was at a pretty high level.
     
  13. RonJhun808 All Praise to the One Professional Fighter

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    I like how you have Bisping on there. Bisping deserves respect for what he has done.
     
  14. Shaddows Steel Belt

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    If we are talking skills/accomplishments, then here it is my list:

    1. Anderson

    Henderson
    Jacare
    Moussasi
    Izzy
    Whittaker
    Rockhold
    Vitor
    Rich F.
    Weidman
    Nate
     
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  15. NoBiasJustMMA Steel Belt

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    I think you have Henderson too high, he didn't have a lot of big wins at 185 since around half of his fights were at 205+ I would have him at 5th and bump everyone else up.
     
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    Yep. Hendo, Chael, Marquardt, and Vitor all on TRT. Anderson busted for multiple compounds. You also have guys like Bisping, Moussasi, Shields, and Franklin that all fought at multiple weight classes (with shields also failing a drug test as well).

    Pretty hard to rank a "middle weight only" top 10 based on those factors.
     
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    Agree with this list 100%.
    Marquardt was such a force during his first UFC run.
     
  18. SokoudjouFanboy 39 tried, just 19 succeeded

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    Feel like Paulo Filho deserves an honorable mention if not a spot towards the bottom of a top 10 list. Was considered #1 MW in the world even above Anderson for a while before Anderson was dominant. Held the WEC belt. Could have been more if not for the health/drug issues though.
     
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    1 silva
    2 izzy
    3 moussasi

    gegard has done alot. but also has quite a few inexcusable losses on his record like lavato jr and uriah hall.
     
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    I actually had Bobby in front of him initialy but I was scared all the Pride fanboys would gang up on me.
     

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