Media Michael Jai White: Khabib Can't Claim to be the GOAT, Jon "Bones" Jones Is

  • Let's compare Clean Jon Jones to Khabib
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"Clean Jones"

ok add in the rest of Khabibs "big wins" and every single other former champion/undefeated fighter Jon beat with out failing a drug test. lets see how their full resume stacks up

Jones is a HW who beat up on smaller LHWs while juiced to the gills are fired up off coke

Jon literally makes LHW laughably easy while Khabib has nearly killed himself making LW. I can pull up numerous videos of Khabib late in his weight cut laying on the floor nearly crying in agony from how brutal his cuts are. Find one of Jon Jones. Or find one time Jon had to pull out of a fight from a bad weight cut.

Is Gus a HW too?

This "Jon beat 4 champions in his first 4title fights" stuff

1. Rampage was 2-1 before Jones. Considering the Machida fight a robbery/controversial decision/could have been a draw/whatever and considering he only beat Hamil by decision, it isn't much. Yeah, Rampage was a champion, but he wasn't in his prime when he fought Jones

2. Machida - Machida is a very small LHW for modern MMA. Aware of the fact that he was LHW Champ, but there are MWs bigger than him. Rockhold, for example. And Machida was 1-2 in his last 3. Or 2-1, for those who consider the Rampage fight a roberry. Not a big winning streak for him.

3. Vitor - again, a small LHW for modern MMA. He was 2-1 in his last 3. After being embarassed by Silva, he chocked Ramapage and KOd Sherdog's idol before Costa, Sexiyama. Great KO artist, but the man had 9 losses before Jones, he wasn't this "wow, how will Jones deal with him"

4. Rashad - and, for the third time, a small LHW. Rashad had a good resume, being only finished by Machida, but for fucks sake, he looked so much smaller than Jones, same like Vitor and Machida. Not only height, but frame too.

All 3, Vitor, Machida and Rashad, went to MW after their prime because they were aware of the fact they were so much smaller than present LHWs.

Aware of the fact that a weight-in is a weight-in and good for Jones for being able to do it without troubles, like DC. But those 3 fights looked like GSP vs Menjivar or like a bigger brother vs younger brother. Like it or not, Jones has had problems with fighters his own size like Gus, Santos or Reyes, all three considered robberies or controversial decisions or draws (you pick).


No, not an argument for Khabib being GOAT.
But this "oh, he beat so many champions" is stupid

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  • Makes a scenario where he excuses Jon Jones PEDs and still says even without it, Khabib's wins don't compare with Jon Jones
  • Acknowledges Jon's outside of the octagon issues, says Khabib has no outside blemish really but can't compare their resume
  • People like khabib more because there's no blemish
  • Vlad brings up both fighter's total record, but Michael Jai White wants to just focus on each fighter's championship run and says Jon is more impressive(I get the sense that neither Vlad nor Michael J. White knew that Jones' only loss is a disputed one??)
  • Jon beat 4 champions in his first 4title fights
  • The rest of the interview they talk about don frye

Why does that man even talk mma? Fks sake.
 
1 finish in 7 years.

No. Prime Jones is long and over.

Khabib cemented himself as the Goat, finishing the top of the top in athletes, in his 30s, unlike Jones.
 
Did this guy really just say a 48-44 against Anthony fucking Smith and two Split decisions against Santos and Reyes is more impressive than finishing Conor Poirier and Gaethje.

If he means by they are not comparable cause Khabibs are soo soo much more impressive then he's right.

Take Jones early run Shogun, Rampage, Machina and Vitor

Much more impressive to me than anything Khabib has ever done, both great fights, but in hindsight beating Conor is not such a feat, the guy got smoked by Diaz brothers.
 
Who cares what this fake ass martial artist has to say. MJW is a egomaniacal piece of shit
Also: GSP is the goat
 
Can't get over Jones' PED use tbh. Its not just once, but 3 times.

Otherwise yeah is resume and accomplishments are greater than khabibs. Khabib has a greater ceiling but decided to retire prematurely because mummy told him to.
he has 2 violations.

both arbitrations concluded he didn't get any performance enhancing benefits for those violations. people get triggered by that of course....
 
And you can’t claim to beat real ufc fighters when you are just a practitioner and wannabe action star.
 
Khabib never claimed to be goat just the current best P4P fighter. Is it that hard for people to understand?
 
Khabib lost one round whereas Jones lost fights but gifted decisions wins. Khabib Goat, let's quit with the nonsense already.
 
  • Let's compare Clean Jon Jones to Khabib
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Justin His horrendous performance against Khabib really puts his career into perspective right now. This dude has a history of choking badly in big fights. The Tony fight he was great OK. But Dustin, Eddie, now Khabib Terrible. He was winning the Dustin fight, and still found a way to lose it.
 
Khabib lost one round whereas Jones lost fights but gifted decisions wins. Khabib Goat, let's quit with the nonsense already.
Jones has been around forever and was champion of the world at 23 years of age. Take a look at his run leading up to his championship opportunity, and look at what he did immediately after that in the following years. Also understand he was so young he wasn’t even in his prime. So when people talk about some of those guys being older and past their prime, guess what Jones was nowhere near his prime. He was a 23-year-old kid. And in terms of steroids, he fought guys like Vitor. The TRT king.
 
Justin His horrendous performance against Khabib really puts his career into perspective right now. This dude has a history of choking badly in big fights. The Tony fight he was great OK. But Dustin, Eddie, now Khabib Terrible. He was winning the Dustin fight, and still found a way to lose it.
What? The dustin fight was back and forth, I thought dustin was winning the fight. So did the judges

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What? The dustin fight was back and forth, I thought dustin was winning the fight. So did the judges

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He was doing the most damage with the leg kicks. Dustin appeared to be on his way to getting finished. But nope. Justin Found a way to lose just like he did with Eddie.
 
He was doing the most damage with the leg kicks. Dustin appeared to be on his way to getting finished. But nope. Justin Found a way to lose just like he did with Eddie.
You and I saw a different fight. Dustin was kicking dude's ass. Leg kicks be damned. Spamming leg kicks isn't going to win anyone a fight at that level.
 
You and I saw a different fight. Dustin was kicking dude's ass. Leg kicks be damned. Spamming leg kicks isn't going to win anyone a fight.
I don’t think you watched the fight at all. His legs were badly damaged in the corner he was in obvious distress.
 
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