Meltzer: Nunes offered Tate fight

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  1. DGT4NOW

    DGT4NOW Red Belt Platinum Member

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    On his overnight podcast, Dave Meltzer said that Nunes was offered a fight with Tate (guessing the Ronda card) & awaiting to make it official.

    He then gave his opinion which is pretty similar to mine that it was a mistake to treat Tate the way they did & that the Dana comment that "everyone seen Tate vs Ronda" is not really true, because very few of the new Ronda crown has seen the SF match & a large portion of her current fanbase did not live through the last fight from 2 years ago.
     
  2. Ashenthorn

    Ashenthorn Black Belt

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    Talk about a no win situation for Tate. If she loses, Nunes takes her spot. If she wins, she beat somebody that Alexis Davis, Cat Zingano and Sarah D'Alelio (eek) already beat. There's no advancement there.

    She'd be better of taking a fight where she could avenge a past loss (Kaufman or Zingano) or even fighting Cyborg - which is a win-win no matter the result and a huge opportunity for advancement.
     
  3. Fox by the Sea

    Fox by the Sea Lighthouse keeper Platinum Member

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    great! 10 more wins and tate will get her shot!
     
  4. AP_RESURRECTION

    AP_RESURRECTION Gold Belt

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    we dont get the true story of what happened - ufc and tate must have had some scuffle over something, maybe her comments related to reebok pay sponsorship or something - we'll prob never know why the ufc decided to change paths drastically from guaranteeing her a title shot to playing the 'that fight has already been done' angle
     
  5. DGT4NOW

    DGT4NOW Red Belt Platinum Member

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    I mentioned this in another thread.
    Tate has said recently that none of her sponsors had left her (since Reebok) & that they are supporting her with other avenues.
    My thinking is that this was purely a power play by Ronda to do two things:
    1. To screw Tate
    2. To have another chance at a 30 sce win

    Zuffa announces #1 contender fight
    Tate wins
    Dana & Tate discuss the Tate/Ronda fight at post presser

    All of that tells me that Tate & Zuffa were on board ... the missing piece is Rousey
     
  6. countswagula

    countswagula Gold Belt

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    Tate deserved the next shot but i'll be rooting for Nunes for the sake of novelty
     
  7. blingking

    blingking stoppage

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    Or they did some market studies figured what story they could sell in the mainstream on one of the craziest sports periods with the mainstream sports media talking about both the final week of the NFL regular season and the college football playoff that will begin 48 hours before.
     
  8. UL

    UL no more yellows Double Yellow Card

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    TS is meltzer or his son possibly
     
  9. UL

    UL no more yellows Double Yellow Card

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    Geez

    You are so clueless

    Wasnt Tate at one of the reebok expo?

    Reason the fight isn't happening is because the tate fight will be more popular for ufc 200 as ronda probably said she'd rather die than fight cyborg so the ufc are going with plan B
     
  10. Tom Taylor

    Tom Taylor Brown Belt

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    I thought Tate deserved the next shot, and I agree with Meltzer's argument for her getting it over Holm.

    I think Holm will do ok against Ronda though. She'll probably lose in round 1 or 2 but it won't be the execution that Correia was.
     
  11. LouisBolanos

    LouisBolanos Popcorn tastes good

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    Tough shit. She's lost twice to the champ, decisively. What does she expect?

    It's not like she'd advance anywhere further if she loses to Rousey a third time, most likely in the first round. She'd be done for if that happens. If anything Dana is doing her a favor by delaying that.
     
  12. BionicCommando

    BionicCommando Silver Belt

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    She's been making comments about it since before her fight in July. My guess is they're scared of doing too many rematches in a short span (September, December and Feb all have title rematches) and Meisha got the short end.
     
  13. INoHespectChael

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    Meh. I still rather watch someone that got to the 3rd round instead of a kickboxer that's gonna get tossed and subbed in less than a minute.
     
  14. DGT4NOW

    DGT4NOW Red Belt Platinum Member

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    Hmmm ... that is possibly part of it too
     
  15. Jblizzle

    Jblizzle Red Belt

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    They changed the fight because of the backlash the rematch was getting from pretty much everyone, even on ESPN when they were discussing Rousey and how she'll prob face Miesha next, Ronda beating Miesha twice was one of the first things brought up.

    Ronda vs an undefeated world champion boxer is easier to sell to the casuals, than someone Ronda already beat twice . It doesn't really matter if they saw the fights or not because they would have been reminded of that fact a lot in what would have been the lead up to that fight
     
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    I had (and have) zero interest in seeing Ronda beat Tate again so soon, and the whole "we've seen it twice already" line would have been all well and good had Dana not come out and said she'd get the next shot. The UFC definitely talked about the fight like a done deal, and I think even Ronda came out and said she was looking forward to fighting Tate again. I don't like Tate at all, but this was a crappy way to handle it, especially if she really only found out when she saw Ronda's GMA interview.
     
  17. LampShade94

    LampShade94 Brown Belt

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    They probably just crunched some numbers and realized they could make more money with Holm vs Rousey.
     
  18. DGT4NOW

    DGT4NOW Red Belt Platinum Member

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    I disagree
    Tate is far more popular & has a build in story & rivalry
    The story of Ronda's dreaded rival & the only one to get out of the first round gets one last chance is far easier to sell than Holm

    Tate vs Ronda outdraws Holm easily
     
  19. dmtpanic

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    False narrative.

    R3 was on board to fight Tate up until the UFC changed their minds.
     
  20. Jblizzle

    Jblizzle Red Belt

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    At UFC 200 after after casual fans who bought a ppv to see Ronda see Miesha take out a very dangerous contender. Right now no it might outsell Holm vs Rousey but not easily. Like I said people will be constantly reminded that Ronda beat her twice already and the fights really weren't all that competitive in the lead up to that fight. Holm is at least undefeated and the most credentialed striker in all of MMA add that to the footage Zuffa now owns of Holly knocking out cans in the minor leagues with Ronda's t/ko's and you have a decent promo
     

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