McGregor era fan - Learn me on Pele and Shogun GnP

Also another thing besides drug testing to keep in mind on understanding older fighters is also the difference in fighting skills.

Back in 2005, mount was an instant death sentence. You would 99% be finished right there. It was basically a submission. Shogun would get mount or top positoin and just brutalize guys in 2005.

That does not work in 2018.

The ground game has evolved and I can't even remember the last time someone finished or even hurt someone from the mount. It just doesn't happen. Shogun had a great GNP skillset for 2005 but it doesn't (obviously) work in 2018.
"Back in 2005, mount was an instant death sentence. You would 99% be finished right there. It was basically a submission."

> Wont even talk about 2005, but already in 1997-2000, full mount didnt necessarily meant game over or sub.
99%? Baseless, Im afraid. Those dudes were breathing armbars and leglocks back in the days...

"That does not work in 2018."

"The ground game has evolved and I can't even remember the last time someone finished or even hurt someone from the mount. It just doesn't happen"

> Hmmm... you mean someone getting the full mount these days wont get the job done? either with punches or forcing the dude to give his back?
 
Oh man, I can't at all stress how terrifying I thought Kerr was. Where was his ceiling? Imagine a focused Kerr without the distractions and negativity around him. Potential GOAT?

Ortiz, Coleman, Fedor, maximum respect for both, same for many others from that era. Frank Shamrock deserves recognition, as does Dan Severn and more. Randy's top pressure and control, Randlemans power.

Not trying to discredit the true GnP specialists, not all. Just the comment about Shogun is about his finish ability and inability to think of anyone as savage in that regard.



I thought we would see Kerr kill someone.
 
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