Late modern era fan here with a twin focus educational thread: I began watching MMA fulltime in mid 2014, but instantly began looking back to early events in an effort to better understand the sport. But two questions bugging me: What was the real status / significance of Pele and why has there been no one with ground and pound violence equal to Shogun? By the time MMA hit the mainstream, Pele appeared to be well past relevance, yet it seemed that he was still revered for early day achievements. Rose tinted glasses, or praise well deserved? And Shogun - more of a technical question - what is it that made his striking attacks through the guard so violent and effective, and why does it seem like no one since has replicated this?