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Matt Hughes lost to BJ twice, but who was the better fighter and had the better career?

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  1. West Linn Banned Banned

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  2. moreorless87 Straba

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    In this specific matchup I'd say BJ was shown to be the better fighter, Hughes barely survived the 2nd fight and won when Penn injured a rib and gassed.

    Better career is quite hard to judge given the differences.
     
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    True, but I'd argue that is the most meaningful fight between these two as both were in their primes and Hughes was taking BJ seriously as opposed to completely overlooking him in the first fight. And injured rib or not, Hughes still won.
     
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    Individually, I'd judge Hughes to have had the more successful career. His record, by numbers, is far more impressive, and if you want to dig in, he defended the welterweight belt more times than anyone other than GSP.

    BJ was, of course, the Prodigy. His first 10 fights are just beyond the comprehension of noobs today who dismiss him for the unfortunate latter half of his overly long career.
     
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    BJ's prime is at LW and he was 1-2 going into that rematch. And with your logic, BJ still won the first fight, overlooked or not. Hughes arguably had better wins (5 title defenses) going into the first fight than the second.
     
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    BJ was better
    Careers were drastically different.
     
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  7. Shaun K Yellow Belt

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    Hughes clearly had the better career. Both amazing fighters.
     
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    On paper Hughes

    Judged by the actual fights and opppnents nothing beats Penns wins over Gomi and Hughes back to back, going on to beat MWs and LHWs
     
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    I think BJ was definitely the better fighter, both more talented and skilled than Hughes, but Matt had the better career of the two.
     
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    Better fighter in prime: BJ

    Better career: Hughes

    And I don't hesitate on either answer tbqh.
     
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    BJ and it's not even debatable.
    Nobody mentioned Hughes for p4p GOAT, BJ was in the conversation.
     
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    Hughes doesn't have a better career than the 2 division UFC champion, not to mention his epic fights in ROTR and K1
     
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    You could definitely say BJ had better career highlights. But going 1-9-1 in your last 12 and winning none of your last 8 matters. He fought and lost to shitloads of average fighters. And that streak of futility started at age 31, not 41.
     
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    BJ fell pretty hard and fast after he went over that hill. As a result he's one of the most underrated and underappreciated champs. In his prime he was a beast and fought all comers.
     
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    Hughes had the far better career.. His career was amazing.. The 3rd fight both were past the prime..
     
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    BJ had some highly delusional fans back in the day. BJ constantly jumping classes I would argue badly damages his legacy in many ways.. The 16-14-2 record is obviously bad.. But beyond that his longest winning streak ever was 4.. That's it.. 4 wins..

    Hughes on the other hand going into the 2nd GSP fight was 41-4 having won 9 title fights..

    Career wise Hughes blows BJ out of the water..
     
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    Hughes had a better career overall.
     
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    Hughes had a better career, but Bj was a better fighter than one dimensional Hughes
     
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    The biggest mistake in BJ's career was I'd say signing with FEG rather than Pride.

    Going to a decision with a HW Machida was impressive to some degree I spose but in Pride he could have been in the mix with the best LW's of that era.
     
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    Penn was the better fighter...

    Hughes had the better career...
     
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