matrail arts vs fighting systems

[bowlie]

ok so ive always been a strong beleiver that martial arts are an art, not a way of fighting. if you want to learn a martial art, do karate, if you want to fight do boxing. however im starting to rethink that. i think alot of martial arts are useless at low levels but at high levels i can imagine they are prety devastating. i think the reason not many people that do them are good fighters is that they spend too much time teaching cr@p at martial arts gyms and not enough sparing.

in your experience how useful are martial arts such as karate, TKD e.c.t. useful? and how many gyms teach them well? thanks

 

[An Dathuil**]

Q) Is karate useful

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[Blake Dunaway]

Muay Thai, karate, bjj, judo are all martial arts. The " crap" they teach is really worth it. Just because it's not always applicable dosnt make it crap or bad. Its all about the fighter and how he uses the knowledge he's been taught.
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[DivineComedy]

That school of thought is applicable to Western Culture, generally wanting to reach the destination without the journey quickly. Thus the arrival of McDojos on our shore, and the 70's describing martial arts as a mystical form of power or some bullshit like that. Combat sports will generally teach you basics of combat first and make you more comfortable with striking another opponent very soon. Arts such as Karate, Tae Kwon Do, and Kung fu do not spar as soon as Boxing, Muay Thai, etc.

Now, with mma popularizing Muay Thai and BJJ, the other more traditional arts with kata get shunned and a stigma attached to them. There are many, many poor schools of Tae Kwon Do, Karate, and kung fu, just as there are schools of Tae Bo calling themselves Muay Thai because of marketing.

It is hard to number the amount of schools that do them well as there are thousands of schools and no one is going to go by each one and denote which one is good or which one is poor as the school would just ask Who the fuck are you?

An art such as Kyokushin Karate is extremely effective in terms of fighting, and the argument to say that oh well they don't practice punches to the face and therefore they cannot longer beat the living shit out of any opponent is just ridiculous.

It is really what the fighter takes away from the art the studied that is important. In the street, a boxer isn't going to square off with his opponent hands up and go exchanging blows with him. Nor would a BJJ practitioner get into a street fight with a guy and immediately hit the floor and pull guard.

 

[LEGS MAHONEY]

Traditionally the arts you described were very much combat arts

Originally a person was taught application, drills , conditioning, power generation and sparring.

things like kata were taught either much later or if at all unless someone was a lineage holder.

Now unfortunately its become the reverse and its kata, kata, kata, compliant drill,kata and more kata

 

[Fire of Youth]

Well said DivineCompany

 

[thirteen]

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I still get a laugh out of that gif.

It's all useful imo. Any martial art/sport/system is only as good as what you put into it.