Relationship Married bros: What's in a name?

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I'll be the first to say it. Seriously, fuck kids. The survival of the human race does not depend on dudes blowing it up in chicks anymore. We have the ability to reproduce without that, and if we destroy ourselves, some fat redneck or 3rd world caveman shitting out a bunch of kids isn't going to change anything.

The older I get, the more I notice what a waste of time raising a family is. The vast majority of people I know that have kids are just absolutely miserable, and half the time, they don't even have a relationship with said kids after they leave the nest. It's like they wasted the better part of their lives for nothing. One of my best friends is going through this. Both of his daughters are lesbians, and don't communicate with him because of his politics. Dude couldn't have been a better dad, and he's not even against anything regarding his daughter's sexuality. They just hate him on principal.

He's having a lot of regrets lately.
Yeah, fuck all that.....
 
I'll be the first to say it. Seriously, fuck kids. The survival of the human race does not depend on dudes blowing it up in chicks anymore. We have the ability to reproduce without that, and if we destroy ourselves, some fat redneck or 3rd world caveman shitting out a bunch of kids isn't going to change anything.

The older I get, the more I notice what a waste of time raising a family is. The vast majority of people I know that have kids are just absolutely miserable, and half the time, they don't even have a relationship with said kids after they leave the nest. It's like they wasted the better part of their lives for nothing. One of my best friends is going through this. Both of his daughters are lesbians, and don't communicate with him because of his politics. Dude couldn't have been a better dad, and he's not even against anything regarding his daughter's sexuality. They just hate him on principal.

He's having a lot of regrets lately.
Yeah, fuck all that.....
His wife probably wears the pants too
 
His wife probably wears the pants too
She doesn't, and that's part of the problem. Daughters think the mom is a doormat, so they don't respect her, and they think their dad is a stupid redneck, so they don't respect him. He's not a stupid redneck, but definitely a religious dude with more conservative values. I'm friends with the older daughter on Facebook, and she passive aggressively talk shit about her parents constantly. It's pretty brutal.

What are the odds of a couple like that having not one, but two, angry militant feminist carpet munching daughters?

Growing up in a small town, I know lots of families that have a gay kid that doesn't have much to do with them, but to have two.......
 
I couldn’t imagine it any other way than my wife taking my last name. I wanted her to have it and she wanted it too.
If some soft bois want to take their wife’s name, I don’t care. It doesn’t hurt me of affect my life. But it’s not something I would do.
 
I insisted that my wife and I shared the same last name. I told her if she didn't take mine, I'd take hers, which would have given me a legit funny name. She relented. This is super valuable because we got divorced when my kid was 1, and now my kid has my name, which is more important to a single dad than you think.
 
I think plebs will simp.

Modern women wearing a white dress is hilarious. <Lmaoo>

If the tradition of marriage is so important yet modern women don't want your name, it's very telling red flag.

White dress means taking vows for the first time. Women usually wear red when they remarry. My ex wore a red dress and even has a ruby instead of a diamond in her ring for her second marriage. The meaning of those things changed decades ago.
 
Question:

When people get engaged, why does the guy propose to the girl and get her a ring?

Why does a women get a nice white dress, a bouquet of flowers, bridesmaids, a honeymoon and everything else that comes with marriage?

Why does a new bride typically take a man's last name?

Why not two people just be together and raise kids and cohabitate?

Because it's a TRADITION.

And say what you want about the validity of traditions, but that is BS if a woman wants to pick and choose what benefits them and not. Marriage and the wedding is already all about her.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. And if a woman doesn't want to take your name, it signals to me they're not as devoted. That's my opinion.
 
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Being the father of two daughters. It doesn’t matter that they have my name. It will change once they marry anyways. And even then I would suspect that their children will bear their fathers name.

Unless in some cosmic mishap that they have a baby out of wedlock and the dad is a dead beat. Then those kids are getting my name for sure.
 
I'll be the first to say it. Seriously, fuck kids. The survival of the human race does not depend on dudes blowing it up in chicks anymore. We have the ability to reproduce without that, and if we destroy ourselves, some fat redneck or 3rd world caveman shitting out a bunch of kids isn't going to change anything.

The older I get, the more I notice what a waste of time raising a family is. The vast majority of people I know that have kids are just absolutely miserable, and half the time, they don't even have a relationship with said kids after they leave the nest. It's like they wasted the better part of their lives for nothing. One of my best friends is going through this. Both of his daughters are lesbians, and don't communicate with him because of his politics. Dude couldn't have been a better dad, and he's not even against anything regarding his daughter's sexuality. They just hate him on principal.

He's having a lot of regrets lately.
Yeah, fuck all that.....

That's amazing, because I don't know anyone with a terrible relationship with their kids, except for one ex friend from the ghetto and another friend who was abused by his traveller father.

I sometimes wonder if I live in unicorn land.

My kids were the second best decision I made in my life, right after wifing my wife.
 
That's amazing, because I don't know anyone with a terrible relationship with their kids, except for one ex friend from the ghetto and another friend who was abused by his traveller father.

I sometimes wonder if I live in unicorn land.

My kids were the second best decision I made in my life, right after wifing my wife.
I was having this discussion over some beers with some guys in my fantasy football league a few months ago, and it was wild. Out of the five guys sitting at the table, not one of us had a good relationship with our father. We're all gen-x or boomers, so that's more common in our age group, but it's still disturbing.

Yeah, I don't know too many people that have a great relationship with their parents, and I don't know any people at all that are married with kids that are happy. Like not one if I'm being honest. Everyone I know personally that's married with kids is struggling to keep it together. I know guys that are single with kids that are happy, and I know dudes that have no kids that are happy, but I can't think of anyone that's living the dream that's enjoying it as sad as that sounds.
 
I'd tolerate it being hyphenated, but it'd have to be taken in some capacity. I'd want my child to have it.

Then again, I grew up without a slither of romance, being brought up by my mother alone.

So I don't see the point in marriage in general.
 
My wife took my last name and obviously so did the kids. The name change being a "pain" makes no sense. It is a few pieces of paper here. No hyphens, I find that silly.
There is only 1 scenario I have heard about taking the wife's name that I respect. I have a coworker that took his wife's name. He was adopted by parents that abused him and treated him like shit. His wife's father took him in and gave him a home and a life. Taught him a trade, and they became partners. He loved the man. The Father only had daughters. He took on that name to honor that man and keep his unique name alive. They have 4 kids now and 3 sons, so he did a nice job.
That man didn't take his wife's last name. He took his father's last name. Also why am I crying.
 
White dress means taking vows for the first time. Women usually wear red when they remarry. My ex wore a red dress and even has a ruby instead of a diamond in her ring for her second marriage. The meaning of those things changed decades ago.

My point was that her past would disqualify her from marriage and monogamy in any other time, country or culture. Morons continue to bend the knee then squabble after the divorce machine.

Who would have guessed the village bicycle with multiple baby daddies and pro choice wasn't a great candidate. Shocker. <Lmaoo>

A guy is better off utilizing the money for something worth while. You get better odds buying btc or throwing everything on black in a casino in Vegas.
 
My point was that her past would disqualify her from marriage and monogamy in any other time, country or culture. Morons continue to bend the knee then squabble after the divorce machine.

Who would have guessed the village bicycle with multiple baby daddies and pro choice wasn't a great candidate. Shocker. <Lmaoo>

A guy is better off utilizing the money for something worth while. You get better odds buying btc or throwing everything on black in a casino in Vegas.

Sex isnt that big of a deal. Lots of people get and stayed married. I personally had a dissolution because we agreed on everything, so inflation adjusted it cost less than our rings. Women only stayed married in the past, when they were unhappy, because of economic reasons.
 
That's amazing, because I don't know anyone with a terrible relationship with their kids, except for one ex friend from the ghetto and another friend who was abused by his traveller father.

I sometimes wonder if I live in unicorn land.

My kids were the second best decision I made in my life, right after wifing my wife.
I am in the same boat. I am in a friend group because of our kids. There are 12 families and we all live for our kids. Not a bad apple amongst them. Some are more of a handful than others but that is life. Now many are off to college and leading their lives, but we still have great relationships with them. Our families are WHO we are. I just do not see anything else being as important. Going to my sons Football games, and watching my daughter develop her future skillsets has been the greatest joy ever. Is it always easy? No, because you love them so much you feel all of their bumps and bruises. But it is worth it. They also prevent me from leading a self-serving selfish life.
 
I'd tolerate it being hyphenated, but it'd have to be taken in some capacity. I'd want my child to have it.

Then again, I grew up without a slither of romance, being brought up by my mother alone.

So I don't see the point in marriage in general.

Likely why you would tolerate that nonsense.
That's amazing, because I don't know anyone with a terrible relationship with their kids, except for one ex friend from the ghetto and another friend who was abused by his traveller father.

I sometimes wonder if I live in unicorn land.

My kids were the second best decision I made in my life, right after wifing my wife.

Good stuff.

While not outside the realm of possibility, you guys are a statistical anomaly as are anybody with a nuclear family. You both give your kids a better chance.
Question:

When people get engaged, why does the guy propose to the girl and get her a ring?

Why does a women get a nice white dress, a bouquet of flowers, bridesmaids, a honeymoon and everything else that comes with marriage?

Why does a new bride typically take a man's last name?

Why not two people just be together and raise kids and cohabitate?

Because it's a TRADITION.

But modern women want their cake and eat it too. LITERALLY. I'd argue modern women love food more thrn their husband's judging by the inability to put down their fork.

Modern men are absolutely pathetic and effeminate. They have nonstop concessions. You don't marry the Village bicycle. You don't raise other men's kids and sign up for cuckoldry. Most guys are so weak and starved for affection, they are marrying Oscar the grouch or whatever else climbs out of the dumpster.

Waiting till after geriatric pregnancy is not a committee woman. That's looking for a atm. Guys need to wake up.

And say what you want about the validity of traditions, but that is BS if a woman wants to pick and choose what benefits them and not. Marriage and the wedding is already all about her.

It starts in college. Tyrone and Chad when young.

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That awaits the average husband and likely a divorce.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. And if a woman doesn't want to take your name, it signals to me they're not as devoted. That's my opinion.

agreed.

I will take it further. If she doesnt want your kids and when hot and young, its a dral breaker.

You dont marry the girl trying to hit a buzzard beater. Not geriatric pregnancy. Not body positivity. Come correct. proper or gtfo.

The divorce stats are very telling. it's something like 90% initiated by "college educated" women. By college, it means feminist indoctrination, hyper promiscuous, and debt. Guys are marrying that most often then not.

Our grandfathers were hardworking, typically some blue collar work, uneducated, good men, and they found a baddie at 18. Not 40 with a high body count.
 
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