Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by MXZT, Aug 23, 2018.
I thought his observations were spot on.
He just took "Method acting" a bit far. Like when he raped that girl in that one movie.
usually you go looking for what other great actors say about the man.
that should clear things
Nah, he was just trying to butter her up..
He was a great actor, but he was also the biggest asshole in the business.
I agree, spot on.
People give actors way too much credit, anyone can give it a go really.
He was great, but I’m sorry I had to deduct for The Island of Dr Moreau.
He would've been awesome as Mr. Miyagi.
That's really the casting directors fault. It's like you wouldn't hire DDL for Commando 2 or Rape Apocalypse 3
When he was on, he could put on a performance that would capture & enthrall an entire audience, with a yell or with a whisper. A true giant.
He also drove pretty far off the path quite often, so his career was very inconsistent overall, and not as prolific as it should have been.
Still though, Motivated Brando was a force to behold. I know it’s been said many times, but Marlon Brando is the BJ Penn of acting.
Disagree. I mean, I agree that actors are generally given too much credit in our celebrity culture, and that anyone can "give it a go". But not many people can do it well. Very, very few can do it on the level of Brando.
Source: I'm an actor myself and I've also done a lot of work as a casting director, so I've watched a lot of people audition. Most of them were not good.
This is a prime example of someone with extreme talent not acknowledging their talent. Like when someone like Jon Jones says "Just believe in yourself and work hard and your dreams can come true!" Maybe, Jon, but I think being 6'4" with a 7 foot wingspan and one of the greatest fight IQs around, with sponge like learning ability helped a little. What about all the other fighters who work hard and don't become a GOAT? They just didn't want it bad enough?
Same thing with Brando. What he's talking about is an aspect of acting, basically the ability to pretend/lie, and he's right when he says people do it all the time... but not with pre written dialogue, at the call of action, surrounded by crew, lights and a camera in your face. Just being believable in those circumstances is a challenge, let alone having the ability to transcend a moment and present a human truth that illuminates our condition like someone like Brando or DDL can.
I think that’s the dunning Kruger effect.
You might be right, not sure.
One thing though; even if the acting performance is poor a certain look can outweigh that though.
To a certain extent, sure. The nature of film means that someone's look goes a long way in a performance... but to achieve any kind of subtlety or storytelling, you need a good actor. Or at least one good actor in a scene to drive it in a certain direction.
I think most people underappreciate how difficult acting is because they only see successful actors. Even the shittiest Hollywood actors are basically the cream of the crop. It's not unlike the UFC; people watch enough fights and think they know the basics... then they train for a while and realise they don't know shit. Then, if they're lucky, they roll/spar with a high level MMA fighter and realise how huge the gulf of skill and talent actually is. Same with acting. Spend a few days running a casting room and you gain a whole new level of appreciation for how hard it is simply to be believable.
The difference is though if you go through the bios you can find actors in films (maybe not theatre) who had no training and still did a decent job.
Johnny Depp, Cameron Diaz, Jason Statham all had no training.
In comparison, there are no UFC fighters who had no training. All of them had been training for at least 3 years in some kind of martial art.
Jason Statham does only one character in most of the movies I've seen of him, and even his comedic role in Spy was basically the character he has played in his other movies but satirized (Am I using that word right?)
I do not like this actor
there's a great interview with Dennis Hopper about Brando during the filming of Apocalypse Now. apparently, Brando thought so little of Hopper and his acting abilities that he flat refused to be on the set when Hopper was there. yea, that's being kind of an asshole.
Did you just compare Statham to BRANDO? You are out of your mind.
In no way shape or form can Statham act anything other than his visualization of his perfect self.
Brando had skill, real fucking skill and when he put the effort into it he was nothing of himself, he was the character he was supposed to be, from ON THE WATER FRONT to APOCALYPSE NOW to THE GODFATHER.
Believing Jason fucking Statham could bring forth the tenacity and understanding to acting that Brando did is absolutely INSANE.
Talk about spectrums of acting.
Was he really? I've only heard good stories about him treating other actors. Christopher Reeve for one.
He was apparently very hard to work with on set. Treated people like shit. Like someone else said, he took method acting too far lol. He was worse than DDL.
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