Manny Pacquiao has keen interest in fighting winner of Spence and Garcia

[B0mbSquad]

Don't see why anybody wants work from Spence. He's the scariest P4P fight in boxing right now.

 

[svmVR2097]

Don't see why anybody wants work from Spence. He's the scariest P4P fight in boxing right now.

Inoue is and it isn't close in my opinion. Spence is so scary he has lightweights calling him out and getting fights with him.

 

[Breaducce]

Inoue is and it isn't close in my opinion. Spence is so scary he has lightweights calling him out and getting fights with him.

I think Mikey calling Spence out is mostly about the magnitude of that fight and that fact that Spence is a bigger name then Inoue.

 

[svmVR2097]

I think Mikey calling Spence out is mostly about the magnitude of that fight and that fact that Spence is a bigger name then Inoue.

Well I have no doubt that Spence is a bigger name than Inoue is, smaller fighters below 130 almost never have a large name anymore. But he's not a scarier fighter. Mikey/Spence is a huge fight, but it says something about Mikey that he's not so scared of Spence when he has a bigger payday and less riskier fight available to him in Lomachenko. Hell, Mikey is more scared about missing out on an extra payday than he is of Spence. Even if that may be foolish.

The way Inoue has been rolling through opponents jumping up and skipping weight classes is special.

 

[Breaducce]

Well I have no doubt that Spence is a bigger name than Inoue is, smaller fighters below 130 almost never have a large name anymore. But he's not a scarier fighter. Mikey/Spence is a huge fight, but it says something about Mikey that he's not so scared of Spence when he has a bigger payday and less riskier fight available to him in Lomachenko. Hell, Mikey is more scared about missing out on an extra payday than he is of Spence. Even if that may be foolish.

The way Inoue has been rolling through opponents jumping up and skipping weight classes is special.

Yea you make fair points. But I think Mikey chooses Spence fight first because a win further amplifys a potential fight with Loma, and a loss against spence does not affect a potential Loma fight at all due to him going up in weight. If however, he fights Loma first and he loses then there is no Spence fight for him so it seems like a business decision to me as the Loma fight is always there but the Spence fight isn't necessarily. Also, Inoue is definitely a phenom with the way he has steam rolled his opponents and went up in weight, but Spence has faced the better competition so that should also be factored in to their reputations so to speak. Not Inoue's fault but it is the nature of their respective divisions.

 

[Wanderlei4Life]

Pacman Beats Danny and Mikey

Competitive vs Thurman and Porter

Very tough losses vs Crawford or Spence

 

[kenji goh]

The thing is that both Pacman and Mikey are better boxers than Spence will ever be.
But they are so willing to become a stepping stone for him, because with the size difference and
Spence's style that's exactly what they will be.

 

[Sinister]

Spence is only a bigger name than Inoue in the U.S., and barely. I'd not underestimate the Asian market. Chris John banked millions without leaving Indonesia. If you think Inoue gives a shit about how popular he is in the West, you're kidding yourself

 

[ironfist05]

Spence is only a bigger name than Inoue in the U.S., and barely. I'd not underestimate the Asian market. Chris John banked millions without leaving Indonesia. If you think Inoue gives a shit about how popular he is in the West, you're kidding yourself

people love their boxing in Indonesia. I was there for 3+ months and John, Pical, Rachman etc... are beloved. It isn't rich like America, but population wise it isn't far off. You gotta give good money to those guys to leave home, isn't worth it otherwise.

 

[Sinister]

people love their boxing in Indonesia. I was there for 3+ months and John, Pical, Rachman etc... are beloved. It isn't rich like America, but population wise it isn't far off. You gotta give good money to those guys to leave home, isn't worth it otherwise.

Japan's market is better too. A popular fighter there sells like crazy. Americans just think that if we don't give a shit, no one else does either. I've had just as many people mention Inoue to me as Spence.

 

[TidWell]

Japan's market is better too. A popular fighter there sells like crazy. Americans just think that if we don't give a shit, no one else does either. I've had just as many people mention Inoue to me as Spence.

yeah its crazy because in the states a lot of these sports fans crap on boxing and will say things to me like Boxing sucks or people still watch boxing?

But in places like England and Japan the public dont say stupid shit like that they support their fighters, I never understood the hatred some of these sports fans have toward boxing, I think it might be insecurity like they cant box or throw a punch so they fell inferior so they have to say boxing sucks or its boring.

 

[Absolut]

Never good to be talking about the fight after the one in front of you.

 

[Sinister]

yeah its crazy because in the states a lot of these sports fans crap on boxing and will say things to me like Boxing sucks or people still watch boxing?

But in places like England and Japan the public dont say stupid shit like that they support their fighters, I never understood the hatred some of these sports fans have toward boxing, I think it might be insecurity like they cant box or throw a punch so they fell inferior so they have to say boxing sucks or its boring.

Pretty accurate. Americans have always preferred gang warfare and very specifically American games. Anything the World does just as good as we do, we sideline it. So once American dominance in boxing became largely a task of black and hispanic fighters, over half the Country lost interest.

But it's never too late, the problem with boxing is simply lazy and archaic promotional practices. The moment someone innovative markets fighters correctly, you'll see a sharp uptick. Floyd was able to do this, with himself. I doubt he'll replicate it with any TMT athlete, and Floyd first exploited the traditional "ignorant villainous black man" motif Americans love so much (this is gonna sound weird, but it's classic "old boy" racism being exploited. Like how most of the time in porn black men end up banging someone else's woman, or forcing it, or its a girl who seems to be ONLY doing it because of the taboo aspect). However, Floyd managed to cross-over and sell some of his actual personality. He set the table for black athletes to be more than just caricatures of stereotypes.

 

[TidWell]

Never good to be talking about the fight after the one in front of you.

To be fair the reporters were asking him if he wanted the winner, I notice reporters always like asking fighters the question knowing the fighters dont really want to look past their opponents but they always say yes sure if I beat so and so Ill fight him next. I have no clue why these bozo reporters ask that question save it for after the fight.

 

[Absolut]

To be fair the reporters were asking him if he wanted the winner, I notice reporters always like asking fighters the question knowing the fighters dont really want to look past their opponents but they always say yes sure if I beat so and so Ill fight him next. I have no clue why these bozo reporters ask that question save it for after the fight.

Thanks, that's good to know. Wasn't it 5-6 years ago on one of the 24/7s that Roach was saying Manny wasn't going to fight anymore...

 

[B0mbSquad]

Inoue is and it isn't close in my opinion. Spence is so scary he has lightweights calling him out and getting fights with him.

That's like calling Inoue the p4p biggest eater. He's so far at the small end of the spectrum that p4p rankings get iffy. A lot of the world doesn't produce humans small enough to compete in that weight class, but technical ability is typically higher the lower the weight.

 

[svmVR2097]

That's like calling Inoue the p4p biggest eater. He's so far at the small end of the spectrum that p4p rankings get iffy. A lot of the world doesn't produce humans small enough to compete in that weight class, but technical ability is typically higher the lower the weight.

I don't know if he'll ever get as high as Manny did, be he's storming through divisions at a fast pace. He's won 3 titles in 3 weight classes and even skipped a class along the way. Realistically I see him getting as high as 126, but even then, that's 5 weight classes if he can keep up the winning.

p4p does get iffy that low, which is why it took forever for Roman Gonzalez to get his due and SSR in turn for defeating him soundly in the rematch. But someone taking titles that quickly for legit opponents in the weight class (not like Broner being a 4 division champion) would be unheard of, if Loma hadn't been doing it as a slightly quicker pace.

 

[CodeBreaker]

Spence KOs a prime Manny, let alone the 40 year version of him

You're joking right?

 

[-Magua-]

Garcia at 147 is easier for Manny. Garcia likes a fighter he can maintain, but Pacquiao, even an old one, has some tricks. He always seems able to pitch that left hand cold and land it on EVERYONE. I don't know how Garcia goes for 12 rounds at 147. His ceiling may have been 140. We just don't know.

Spence fighting an all time great who is also a southpaw is interesting. Safe money on the young guy with less miles on his body. Southpaw vs southpaw makes it interesting. Pacquiao throws his left from a lot of angles and his jab isn't thrown like Spence's. Spence jabs to bully and punish and get his attack going. Pac's jab can be tricky: it sets up, but it also makes a guy move out of position or into a spot for the left hand or into his right hook. Both are at their best coming forward.

Nice analysis bud. Makes sense to me.

 

[chiefwiggum]

Well I suppose manny must pay it forward and be the slaughter to propel one of these youngsters careers.