Making Squats harder to do?

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  1. Team Pacquiao

    Team Pacquiao White Belt

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    I've been doing squats for a long time, and I haven't seen much change towards my legs. Are they're any different variations of squats that would help?

    Routine(now):
    3 sets to failure
     
  2. Tosa

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    Use more weight, and a better routine.
     
  3. PowerHungry

    PowerHungry Oh yeah!

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    And bath yourself in milk.
     
  4. Dafreeclinic

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    This add more weight and dont go to failure and eat more.
     
  5. paolo27th

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    Tweak your routine this way: put a barbell on your back, make sure it carries enough weight so failure comes before the 8th reps, repeat bi-weekly.
     
  6. DEVILsSON

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    Add additional resistance:
    By using Dumbell(s), Barbell, Band(s), Chain(s), Sandbag(s), Partner, etc

    Do unilateral exercises:
    Pistols(one legged squats), lunges, step ups, bulgarian split squats, etc....

    If your goal is to get bigger or stronger dont go above 15 reps and if you can then add additional resistance in the form of one of the mentioned.

    DEEP BARBELL BACK SQUATS are king when it comes to squatting.
     
  7. paolo27th

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    My guess is the guy is doing BW or pink dumbell squats at most.
     
  8. PowerHungry

    PowerHungry Oh yeah!

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    He's probably not unfamiliar with the Shirley machine and quarter/half squats too.
     
  9. Tosa

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    Who knows what sort of squats he's doing. But regardless, 3 sets to failure is dumb.

    Can you imagine, 3 sets to failure with bodyweight squats? It'd take all day.
     
  10. Cuban Moses

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    The young man looked fit, thick through the chest. Bulging biceps and triceps. Washboard abs and the rest.
    He strode a bit closer. To my shock and surprise!
    I saw his torso supported, by two spindly thighs!
    He walked with confidence and no apprehensions,
    as he performed his first set of leg extensions!
    I watched this debacle, watched his face turn askew.
    Watched him scream in mock agony, 'til his set was all through.
    T'was then I approached him and extended my hand.
    "I don't mean to disrupt you, but excuse me, young man!
    I was admiring your work. Man, that set was nice!
    But I wonder if I might offer some helpful advice?"
    He spoke not a word. Simply nodded his head.
    I could read his expression. He wished I were dead.
    "Get off this contraption! You're wasting your time!
    Go to the squat rack! You can see....there's NO line!
    You don't need machines! You don't need to look far!
    Just load on the weight and get under the bar!
    Unrack that sucker! Squat ass to the floor!
    Grab some big plates, and load on some more!
    Hear the iron rattle as you pound out each rep!
    But please, my friend! YOU must take the first step!
    Come with me now! To the squat rack we'll go!
    Together we'll get those tiny pegs to grow!"
    He studied me hard. He seemed in a haze.
    No words came! He stood in a daze!
    'Say SOMETHING, son! Speak to me, PLEASE!'
    'I can't do it!', he screamed! 'I have bad knees!
     
  11. BeastoftheEast

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    Epic.
     
  12. miaou

    miaou barely keeping it together

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    What's wrong with going to failure? You never fail a squat rep?
     
  13. Roy

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    Heh that poem reminds me of the innumerable "invisible wheelchair lifters" I see at the gym. The sad thing is some of them are also young athletes to who play football, soccer, wrestle, etc. Yup that 8th set of bicep curls from a "different angle" are really gonna help you drive through tackles.
     
  14. Perfect Moo

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    Our wrestling coach makes us do weightlifting with a 45 lb plate, sets of 16 reps, 14, then 12. Lunges, curls, ohp, more curls, twists, some more shoulder stuff. Doesn't seem to work that well.
     
  15. ronin0352

    ronin0352 Lift, Eat, Sleep, Repeat

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    Not every set, every day. We've all failed squat reps, but when you do a routine of 3 sets to failure it's time to find a new routine.
     
  16. miaou

    miaou barely keeping it together

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    Ok, I agree with this. Going to failure on every set of every workout is counter-productive (and potentially dangerous). However, going to failure has it's part in training as long as you know when/why you do so.
     
  17. animalistik

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    When I read that he was doing 3 sets to failure, the first thing that came to mind was that he was using too little weight and doing 10+ reps until failure.
     
  18. miaou

    miaou barely keeping it together

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    It is pretty safe to assume the OP is doing squats with no additional weight, otherwise he wouldn't be asking "how to make squats harder". The answer has been given: add weight!

    The only reason for me posting here, is that after reading Dafreeclinic's post I wasn't sure if he he was commenting specifically for the OP's situation of he thinks going to failure is generally detrimental (in which case he would benefit from hearing about a different point of view).


    edit: "of"="or+if" !!
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2010
  19. Pinyin

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    -perfect your squat form
    -go as low as possible without popping your knee joints
    -get a spotter
    -add more weight
    -leg day twice a week

    I noticed that doing 2-3 sets of 20 wide hip abductions along with 20 reps of body weight jump squats allowed me to strengthen my base on squats and dl. Myself, having very long legs and arms, I always felt the most comfortable and strongest doing squats on the hexagonal trap bar. But obviously it has it limitations compared to conventional squats.
     
  20. MuayThai2112

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    Do 5 sets. Then 5 sets leg press. The trick is to change it up every month or so e.g low weight high reps then switch to low reps heavy weight etc
     

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