MAGIC: The :eek::eek::eek::eek:philing

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Cliffs: Magic the gathering has a judging program to get judges for events.
Judges are not background checked.
Competitions have a lot of boys there.
:eek::eek::eek::eek:philes become judges for these.
The dude running Magic seems not to care and cares more about diversity of outcome than :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes judging magic events.

Long winded video but the guy flat out exposes the :eek::eek::eek::eek:s. The :eek::eek::eek::eek:s were active while judging.

Short cliffs: Barf

 
Tell Josh Barnett. Im sure he'd clean house
 
thats fucked up, at least Hearthstone is out there now
 
Well fuck that shit then
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I’m out
 
It's ok.. They're just gay like spacey. If you're gay, you're allowed to think man boy love is magical.
 
I mean those fringe communities are so easy to clown. But those kids still deserve better.


I mean this has been an issue in the child beauty pageant and casting world for decades.


Basically anyone ELECTING to be around little kids or teens needs a psych evaluation. It should be MANDATORY to work with or around kids.
 
I mean, is this supposed to be surprising on any level
 
I mean those fringe communities are so easy to clown. But those kids still deserve better.


I mean this has been an issue in the child beauty pageant and casting world for decades.


Basically anyone ELECTING to be around little kids or teens needs a psych evaluation. It should be MANDATORY to work with or around kids.

Chris Hansen vs Magic the Gathering.
Chris Hansen vs Hollywood
Chris Hansen vs Bronies

CH should be the most employed man in the world by exposing :eek::eek::eek::eek:s.

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I mean, is this supposed to be surprising on any level

One would like to hope that a major company would not have :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes representing them in any capacity. Someone please think of the children!!!! (not you judges)
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It's ok.. They're just gay like spacey. If you're gay, you're allowed to think man boy love is magical.

They were born that way.
 
I mean those fringe communities are so easy to clown. But those kids still deserve better.


I mean this has been an issue in the child beauty pageant and casting world for decades.


Basically anyone ELECTING to be around little kids or teens needs a psych evaluation. It should be MANDATORY to work with or around kids.

How expensive is an evaluation? How effective is it? How available are they?

I played MTG for a very long time, and played a lot of serious tournaments, where, not surprisingly, there were not really a lot of kids. Interaction with judges was fairly limited. You'd have a problem, raise your hand, the judge would come over, make a decision, and leave.

I also played a lot of FMNs (Friday Night Magic) in shops, where you'd get a LOT more younger players. I played less and less of those because I'm really competitive and never liked curb stomping little kids who just wanted to have fun. In my experience most of the judges for these things were teenagers or shop owners, I almost never saw a judge at an FNM out of his twenties.

There are a TON of level 1 judges, because they're really in demand and it isn't that hard to get certified. There are far fewer level 2 judges and fewer still as you go up the ranks. The higher ranked judges tend to be older; the tests are incredibly difficult. MTG at the highest level is like solving differential equations.

My incredibly long-winded point is this: If testing is expensive and/or not readily available, obviously a line has to be drawn somewhere. Where could or should it be drawn?

I think perhaps it might be better to have certain guidelines in place instead regarding Judge behaviour. Keep in mind that all judging happens in an incredibly public place where you will almost certainly be around no less than a dozen people. I am curious as to what the perceived risks are here.

I'd also like to point out that as per your last point, there are many, many people who volunteer for jobs that involve children. Perhaps this is an issue best left to the law. I know very little about sex offender laws, but aren't those convicted either required to avoid children, or publish their status?

 
A little context; the individual in the video linked was banned from playing Magic a little while back for being a toxic troll. His shtick is whatever it takes to get clicks. If Hasbro was guilty of this they'd be facing a lawsuit because they have tons of money to go after.
 
I mean, is this supposed to be surprising on any level

MTG has been played by tens of millions for decades.

Are there any stories of harm befalling a child as a result of :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes?
 
I mean those fringe communities are so easy to clown. But those kids still deserve better.


I mean this has been an issue in the child beauty pageant and casting world for decades.


Basically anyone ELECTING to be around little kids or teens needs a psych evaluation. It should be MANDATORY to work with or around kids.

I work with kids. Pay is shit but it's rewarding. And I'm not a :eek::eek::eek::eek:.

Everyone likes kids. They're the best part of humanity. I think the people who claim not to should be evaluated.
 
But beauty pageants for adults are twisted. For kids? Reprehensible.
 
MTG has been played by tens of millions for decades.

Are there any stories of harm befalling a child as a result of :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes?

Not sure, I don't have my MTG sex crimes stats with me right now

But I wouldn't be surprised if there were
 
Sounds like complete bullshit honestly. How many documented cases of assault on minors has this issue produced?
 
LOL, the Magic judges finally showed up to this thread.
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A little context; the individual in the video linked was banned from playing Magic a little while back for being a toxic troll. His shtick is whatever it takes to get clicks. If Hasbro was guilty of this they'd be facing a lawsuit because they have tons of money to go after.

What lawsuit exactly? He seems to have evidence he should that they have :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile judges. There are no claims of :eek::eek::eek::eek: raping boys at MAGIC tournaments yet. So what lawsuit?

A lot of people who got butthurt by X went after X with legitimate accusations that were backed up with facts. Look at Hank Hill or people who escape SCIENTOLOGY like Leah Remini.

Just because you are a hater does not mean you are a liar and dude showed evidence.

Sounds like complete bullshit honestly. How many documented cases of assault on minors has this issue produced?

Read above. Whether or not it has resulted in assaults. He shows facts. If he is lying and making up these facts which he provides evidence of, then HE would get taken to court.


No judges below this line ------

But beauty pageants for adults are twisted. For kids? Reprehensible.

How else are we supposed to judge each other? Intelligence? Moral character? Pfffft!!
 
Not sure, I don't have my MTG sex crimes stats with me right now

But I wouldn't be surprised if there were

Yeah, sorry, it was a dumb question.

I spent many years in that environment, and it seemed awesome for kids. It was very helpful and supportive. Older players mostly took it easy on them. It was fun seeing a kid be really excited about something you enjoyed, and you wanted to encourage that excitement (I appreciate how bad that sounds). This applies to Friday Night Magic and not real tournaments, where you would try and crush your opponent with no quarter given.

Most events happen in shops. Parents are often there. If I had kids I'd love for them to go to this kind of event. The interaction with all ages based on a common interest is fantastic.

Know what would really concern me? Shop owners. They have a hell of a lot more alone time with kids who wander into their shops, and a hell of a lot more power.
 
Don't get so upset just because someone offered some context. You seem highly invested in this youtube video.
 
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