With all the Kobe threads recently, I've seen Magic as high as # 2 on some idiots lists. I'm curious to what makes him so high on all time lists? Obviously i was too young to watch him play live, but I've seen full games on YouTube. Magic was a phenomenal floor general, amazing playmaker and efficient scorer. His numbers weren't obscene. He averaged 19/12/8 over a career. He played in a weak era, and won numerous chips. Chips that weren't as prestigious as they are now. Larry bird averaged 25/6/10 on similar efficiency. Why is he usually multiple notches below magic on most people's All Time List? Kobe average 25/5/5 in a much tougher era, and won as many chips. Kobe is widely considered a much better defender. What makes Magic better than Bird, Kobe, Shaq, hakeem, Duncan, LeBron, ????