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I’d disagree that he’s a dictator. I never view any elected official as a dictator. Military dictators like sisi in Egypt for that mold.
International Maduro said on Saturday that cyber attacks against Venezuela’s electricity system, had come from U.S
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I’d disagree that he’s a dictator. I never view any elected official as a dictator. Military dictators like sisi in Egypt for that mold.
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Modern dictators take a softer approach. They use, corrupt, and rig democratic systems rather than throwing them out straight away. And by the way al-Sisi was elected. I will grant you it was probably corrupt, but I don't think what Chavez started doing and Maduro continued was entirely legitimate either.
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Al sisi was not elected. No sir. The only free election they held Morsi won. But some people couldn’t stand that and unleashed sisi and the mass murder that followed.
Erdogan won in a free election, and people wrongly term him a dictator. Duerte isn’t s great dude, but he won an election as well.
People say Putin is a dictator, but he’d win every election that Russia would ever hold while he’s alive. The vast majority of people back him.
Maduro and Chavez won elections, but our deep state leadership can’t stand that.
Our media, global corporations, and deep state politicians collude to tell Americans that elections are only valid when people they approve of win said elections.
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I guess the U.S. also caused the riots, food shortages, murdering of civilians and all the other problems of that Socialist Utopia that caused so millions to flee the nation...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/world/americas/venezuela-refugees-colombia.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/world/americas/venezuela-refugees-colombia.html
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Our sanctions and our pressure to the international system to not trade with Venezuela certainly helped lead to that.
Those are the INTENTIONS behind such cruel actions. We force people to suffer, to put pressure on the government we target for destruction.
It’s evil in every way possible. No defense for it.
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And the power outages they've had every year for a decade.
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The CIA used HAARP to create a weather system that would cause enough wind to take out the power lines but not strong enough to do any other damage.
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Only the U.S. had sanctions on them, everyone else was still trading with them so much for that idea. Cuba has had an American embargo since the 1960s and you dont see that shit there...that was a good try though. I commend you as more often than not sanctions cause great harm...if enough countries do it.
Nope. Venezuela only recently upgraded their internet infrastructure and did not have their grid on it until recently.
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Hacker-man destroys turbines with the power of his hacking.
Hacker-man causes brush and bushland to grow over transformers with the power of hacking.
Hacker-man stops workers from carrying out maintenance and upgrades with the power of hacking.
HACKER-MAN is there anything he can't do ?
Hacker-man causes brush and bushland to grow over transformers with the power of hacking.
Hacker-man stops workers from carrying out maintenance and upgrades with the power of hacking.
HACKER-MAN is there anything he can't do ?
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No, I went back and found stories about power outages going back a decade.
2008
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-blackout-idUSN0145186220080901
2009
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/world/americas/11venez.html
2010
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/14/hugo-chavez-caracas-power-blackouts
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-electricity-idUSTRE61801720100209
2011
https://www.pri.org/stories/2011-06-18/venezuela-darkened-power-outages
2012
https://qz.com/8391/in-venezuela-its-easy-to-vote-for-chavez-after-he-gives-you-a-house/
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/world/americas/venezuela-faces-shortages-in-grocery-staples.html (actually about food shortages while Chavez was still President)
2013
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...-70-percent-venezuela-darkness-flna1C11073510
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...nezuela-blackout-was-Right-wing-sabotage.html (here maduro blames in country right wing sabotage, @Happy Man was clearly doing it for the CIA, I'm kidding bro)
2014
https://www.thedailybeast.com/who-will-maduro-blame-for-venezuelas-blackout-this-time
2015
https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2015/10/21/explainer-apagon-chronicles/
2016
https://www.cnn.com/2016/04/26/americas/venezuela-blackouts/index.html
2017
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ezuela-after-five-hour-blackout-idUSKBN1EC28L
2018
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...its-parts-of-venezuelan-capital-idUSKBN1FQ33T
And you can find similar stories for food shortages going way back and hyperinflation, etc, etc, etc.
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You do understand the west props up plenty of dictators don't you ?
We only hear the word evil dictator when there is some regime change money to be had.
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Try again, I did not say that they were not having power outages a decade ago...I said they did not have their grid connected online a decade ago.
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Try again, I did not say that they were not having power outages a decade ago...I said they did not have their grid connected online a decade ago.
I misunderstood you. I thought you were blaming the problem on the US, which is what @Happy Man is doing. He seems to believe that the lions share of Venezuelas problems are a US driven coup rather than the predictable mismanagement of socialist robber barons.
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Yes you are right about that. But their economy is also targeted. We’ve applied pressure.
We can’t assume that a nation can just go and nationalize its industry and rob billions from extremely wealthy and influential Americans and not be punished for it.
Yes they have had issues with their power grid. However, by basic game theory, both of their recent large power outages cannot he viewed as an accident. Such large ones at just the right places on their grid and at such a time cannot he overlooked. Which is exactly why Russians recently flew in military specialists to help the grid.
The pressure continued, the CIA stooge is calling for more demonstrations on Wednesday. One side actually wants chaos and turmoil, dare I even say bloodshed.
While Maduro is best served by peace and tranquility. Keep that in mind
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I know Guaido has said he wants to allow private companies to exploit Vezenuela's oil. People find that suspicious i.e. foreign interference. But he's also mentioned the plan would involve the private companies paying royalties, which is pretty standard. Even if foreign actors are trying to install a more business-friendly government, it would probably be a win-win. It's only a lose for competing oil-producing countries.
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Reminds me of when Chavez accused us of giving him cancer when he was a lifelong pack-a-day smoker.
These commies are playing the media control game. Just scapegoat the USA. Pander to people's prejudices and fears. Demonize an other in order to convince people the wolf is outside the door when in fact he's the one already sleeping in grandma's bed. Never accept responsibility or fault. That would require admitting that socialism is an abject failure.
Can't have that. All the chips got pushed in on socialism a long, long time ago.
These commies are playing the media control game. Just scapegoat the USA. Pander to people's prejudices and fears. Demonize an other in order to convince people the wolf is outside the door when in fact he's the one already sleeping in grandma's bed. Never accept responsibility or fault. That would require admitting that socialism is an abject failure.
Can't have that. All the chips got pushed in on socialism a long, long time ago.
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Yep. Pretty obvious it is their own government's fault.
Imagine how convenient it could have been for California liberals to just blame Venezuela/China/Russia/Korea or some other boogeyman when the Oroville Dam burst.
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Poor attempt at dodging. Try harder.
You claim Maduro was elected, well soo was Stalin, Mao and most dictators in the world for that matter. Rigged elections don't mean shit. Just because Murica has a shady history, doesn't mean the other side is telling the truth.
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el-Sisi was democratically elected man, what are you talking about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Egyptian_presidential_election
97.03% of the votes.
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