Celtic_81 said:
You're right, he didn't turn his hips over quite enough. If he had, it would have likely landed at a downward angle right across the side of Arona's face...lights out for sure.
Iceman, the kick Shogun used against Rampage was just a swap roundhouse kick, TKD 101. If you want more tips on how to set it up or execute it properly you may want to search the TKD threads. Glad to hear you excited about trying to incorporate into your game though.
ok, the dude just said Shogun did a seminar that he went to, and youre still gonna tell him its this or that?....cmon now....just because one art has a kick, by any other name, doesnt mean that another art has the same kick and calls it something different!
also, to Eye Gouger, Muay Thai does do jump kicks dude....have you ever seen a thai fight?.....or look at K-1 even....Kaoklai Kannenorsing (sp?) took out Mighty Moe with a lightning fast flying round kick....or Remy Bonjasky, MY GAWD!
we've worked on different stuff before....its a common "advanced" technique to work on kicking with the other leg if you miss the first kick...and often, with guys who are adept enough at kicking, they go with the momentum and leap with the kick.
I am so sick of these style based arguements.....I hate styles...I hate the idea of styles....you know, a guy could do an axe kick or something, and then youd have a karate guy saying well thats a karate technique, youd have a TKD'er saying thats taekwondo, youd have Muay Thai guys saying well thats muay Thai, and youd have a Capoerist saying thats Capoiera!...enough already.....
a punch is a punch, a kick is a kick.....its not like youre playing for the damn TKD team, and you always gotta go POINT, POINT!...score one for us!
seriously...is this not a site devoted to MMA?...are we all not MMA fans?.....isnt the beauty of MMA that it is style-less?.....
Im not gonna lie, I train in boxing and muay thai...but I also train in MMA, and I have for years....we take influences from everywhere and anywhere....whatever works, and I would love nothing more than if everyone just dropped the ego and cross trained in everything....
hell, I used to talk smack about TKD all the time....you can ask ole Rex about that
but I dont anymore, because for all the faults Ive found in it, Ive found lots of good points too...and in the end, I believe its not WHAT you train, so much as HOW you train.....
can we please forget about styles, and lets just talk about the techniques and principles themselves!?
and for the record, I dont think that kick Shogun threw was for show at all...I think he was definitely trying to sucker Arona and take his damn head off....and it woulda too, if it landed.....he just misjudged his range, and he lept a little too high......it came from over-zealousness, Im sure.....but that kick wasnt simply pretty....it was a homerun for sure.