International Macron’s party moots banning headscarves in public for under-15s

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President calls government meeting to address finding that Muslim Brotherhood poses ‘threat to national cohesion’

Angelique Chrisafis in Paris

Emmanuel Macron’s centrist political party has suggested banning girls under 15 from wearing the Muslim headscarf in all public places, as the president chaired a high-level government meeting to discuss what it called “political Islamism” in France.

The French president’s office said he had asked ministers to come up with proposals before June to address the “serious” findings of a report that Macron commissioned last year into the presence of the Muslim Brotherhood in France.


The report found that the Muslim Brotherhood – the movement founded in Egypt more than 90 years ago that launched the modern phenomenon of political Islam – posed a “threat to national cohesion” in France and risked undermining “the fabric of society and republican institutions”.

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The French government is also debating proposing a new law to ban the Muslim headscarf in domestic sports competitions.
Photograph: Gonzalo Fuentes/Reuters


Before the meeting, Gabriel Attal, the former prime minister and now head of Macron’s party, Renaissance, proposed a ban on “minors under 15 wearing the veil in public spaces”. He said the Muslim head covering worn by young girls “seriously undermines gender equality and the protection of children”.

Attal told Le Parisien he also wanted to introduce a criminal offence of coercion for parents who make their daughters aged under 18 wear the veil.

Attal’s proposals were criticised by some on the left. The Socialist party lawmaker Jérôme Guedj said Attal was “chasing the far right” and turning French secularism against Muslims.

Macron’s office said the report on the Muslim Brotherhood in France would be published by the end of this week. The Élysée Palace said that because of the “seriousness” of its findings, the government had been tasked to make proposals swiftly.

Agence France-Presse, which obtained a copy of the report, said it pointed to the spread of Islamism “from the bottom up”. This was an apparent reference to municipal politics, charities, schools and sports groups. The report said this constituted “a threat in the short to medium term”.

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It is not certain if restrictions on the Muslim headscarf will be among the proposals made as a result of the report. In the 2022 presidential race, when Macron was re-elected, the far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who came second, proposed banning the wearing of the Muslim headscarf by any woman in all public spaces in France.

Under current French legislation, civil servants in state buildings, including schools and hospitals, cannot wear obvious religious symbols such as a Christian crucifix, Jewish kippah, Sikh turban or Muslim headscarf.

France is a secular republic built on a clear separation of church and state, intended to foster equality for all private beliefs. The state remains neutral in terms of religion but must safeguard everyone’s freedom to practise their own faith.

In 2004, France banned girls from wearing Islamic headscarves in state schools – along with banning all other religious symbols such as crosses or turbans – arguing schools must be free of all religion. There is also debate in government over proposing a new law to ban the Muslim headscarf in domestic sports competitions.

The Élysée said it had been important to commission a report on the Muslim Brotherhood. “The movement is present in Europe and its target is clearly Europe,” an Élysée official said, adding that it was necessary to “raise awareness within the European Union”.

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But the Élysée also said: “We are all perfectly aligned in saying that we must not lump all Muslims together.”

The official said: “We are fighting against Islamism and its radical excesses.”

The report comes at a time when national politics in France is focused on issues of national identity and Islam, with Le Pen’s far right increasing its share of the vote. Bruno Retailleau, the hardline rightwing interior minister, was recently chosen to head the traditional right party Les Républicains, after its former leader Éric Ciotti left to join an alliance with Le Pen.

Retailleau told the media before Wednesday’s meeting that political Islamism was “quietly infiltrating sporting, cultural, social and others associations” and its ultimate aim was to “tip the whole of French society into sharia [law]”.

The French Muslim council issued a statement warning against targeting all Muslims. It said the state “must above all not feed a generalised suspicion towards Muslims in France”.

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Honest question, how would it be enforced? Like, asking an ID for every woman stopped to se her age and confiscating the headscarves of the under 15 ones?
My country doesnt have many muslims, so this is an alien problem for me
 
Honest question, how would it be enforced? Like, asking an ID for every woman stopped to se her age and confiscating the headscarves of the under 15 ones?
My country doesnt have many muslims, so this is an alien problem for me
It won't be; it's just lip service to make French people think their government is trying to tackle the islamification of their country.

The same way the UK Prime Minister said he would cut down on illegal migrants, only to then days later announce a deal with the EU to enable freedom of movement - essentially making the illegal migrants legal.
 
I actually don’t have an issue with the headscarves. Burkas should be banned. Just common sense. I believe France already has them banned though, but others should follow suit.
 
I actually don’t have an issue with the headscarves. Burkas should be banned. Just common sense. I believe France already has them banned though, but others should follow suit.

Yeah, France has had this discussion more times than I can remember.

The story/narrative seems to get recycled every couple of years with, at best/worst, incremental clamping down on what is/isn't allowed specific to certain scenarios.
 
Why do kids wear the headscarf if its sole purpose is to ward off attention from men?


Western women are sometimes required to wear head-scarves when visiting Muslim countries to abide by local culture. So, I don't see why Muslims shouldn't have to abide by western culture when in western countries, if that means removing head-scarves because it's not the local culture, then so be it. Why are they immune from having to modify their behaviours, when nobody else is on their turf?
 
as a french i think this is stupid, every year this conversation (or similar) comes on the table and it's always cheap tactic to get vote and the result is muslims feeling attacked and the result is just more girls under 15 will be wearing headscarves, if the idea is to stop the rise of radical islam or islamification of a country maybe the first ,more logical, step would be to...i don't know...stop bringing a million muslims in the country every year...
 
Western women are sometimes required to wear head-scarves when visiting Muslim countries to abide by local culture. So, I don't see why Muslims shouldn't have to abide by western culture when in western countries, if that means removing head-scarves because it's not the local culture, then so be it. Why are they immune from having to modify their behaviours, when nobody else is on their turf?
In what Western country is there a cultural or religious more of not covering your hair?

Do you guys not wear hats in Europe or something.
 
I don't think a government should ban attire, but I'd be more open to banning religion until you're 18.
 
The head scarf is a tough one i dont think irs neccessary to ban but the full face veil needs to take a serious hike back to the 7th century. You should not be aloud to conceal your identity in public.
 
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