LW Isn't The Killer Division It Once Was ( Khabib And Conor are Both Over - Rated )

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  1. MRDOG

    MRDOG Brown Belt

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    You read the title right.

    Conor got special treatment in his fights and seems to have allot of favorable circumstances surrounding some of his biggest fights. He fought a wide array of fighters that he was much bigger then and once facing someone slightly bigger he lost / had a tough fight that could of went either way.

    Khabib is undefeated and I would put his best win down as RDA, which was a solid win but he won the belt from facing someone outside the top ten or barely top ten ( depending on your rankings ).

    The LW division is so weak that :
    - Anthony Pettis who is 3 - 5 in his last eight fights is still ranked 8th in the division.
    - Tony Ferguson who has fought about twice in three years is ranked 2nd.
    - Conor Mcgregor is ranked 1st after being stripped of the belt and hasn't fought in 2 years and has fought only once in the LW division.
    - Al laquinta who has fought twice in three years and went 1 -1 in those two fights is ranked in the top 10

    Both are tough fighters and so are some of the others I mention but the LW division doesn't exactly have all the killers it once had.

    Folks .... the UFC LW division isn't what it once was.
     
  2. Ralphie dos Nachos

    Ralphie dos Nachos Banned Banned

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    I agree. The Motown Phenom will make that bum division great again

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  3. Espresso

    Espresso ...with Yellow Crema Yellow Card

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    Yet fighters are killing themselves to cut to 145
     
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  4. Sansnom

    Sansnom Gold Belt

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    UFC is dying.
     
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    It's better than ever in terms of top talent, but handled horribly.
     
  6. Ralphie dos Nachos

    Ralphie dos Nachos Banned Banned

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    That's like every division except HW

    155ers are killing themselves to make 170 as well lol
     
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  7. Medulla Omoplata

    Medulla Omoplata Mayberry Comptroller

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    The title picture and rankings are a mess, but it's as talented as it ever has been. I don't know what era TS is comparing it to but half the top ten is the same as it was 4 years ago.
     
  8. MRDOG

    MRDOG Brown Belt

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    Fighters like to have a size advantage. There are fighters killing themselves to make weight in every division but besides that the 145 lb top fighters are aging. Aldo and Edgar are amazing fighters that are on the tail end of their careers and the champion of the division is sick. The division is wide open for any top fighter to capture. Moving down to 145 lbs if you can is a smart move.

    Nope ....

    I disagree ....

    There was a time when the LW division had ..

    Frankie Edgar / Maynard / Gilbert Melendaz / B.J. Penn / Eddie Alvarez / Ben Henderson / Micheal Chandler / Anthony Pettis and others in their prime or near it.
     
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  9. Thug Rose

    Thug Rose Green Belt

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    1) the ufc rankings are a meaningless marketing tool
    2) true rankings are supposed to be based on quality, not activity or win streaks. you can lose 9 fights and win 1 and still be in the top 10.
     
  10. hombreacabado

    hombreacabado White Belt

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    still my all time favorite division in terms of movement knockout power and overall fun matches.
     
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  11. moreorless87

    moreorless87 Disarming Posting

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    Its moreso I'd say that the rankings situation is quite messed up, their is actually a good degree of talent in the top 10 though.
     
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    Ferguson beats both anyway
     
  13. Verace

    Verace Silver Belt

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    Compared to when ts?

    The exact same guys are all there
     
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    How many more million times is this going to be said I mean hold on that horse is still breathing hit it.
     
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  15. MRDOG

    MRDOG Brown Belt

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    Wrong on both ...

    1. Rankings help the fighters in many ways. For example .... it will always be brought up that Aldo was the #1 FW in the world for almost 10 years.

    2. When you say lose 9 fights do you mean in a row ? Do you mean a fighter could win 1 of his latest 10 fights and still be ranked in the top 10 ? If so then that is just an obsurd thing to say.
     
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  16. Roljo

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    The rankings don't mean much, it's just a tool the UFC manipulates to promote fights.

    You have tons of talent, beasts like Taisumov or Makachev aren't even ranked... then you have really good guys like Felder, Duffy, Gillespie that aren't ranked either, overall the division is stacked.
     
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    I hope so
     
  18. Hoop

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    Talk about throwing the Cat among Pigeons.

    <{danawhoah}>
     
  19. Thug Rose

    Thug Rose Green Belt

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    1) i never said that the ufc rankings dont affect fighters, i just explained how someone can be ranked #1 without fighting for years and without having quality wins but that doesnt have any implications on the quality of the division because that fighter is actually worse than his "official" ranking suggests.

    2) if someone is the 10th best fighter in his division, that means he would lose to the 9 above him but he would be able to beat the 11th best. i dont see whats so hard to understand about that concept.
     
  20. MRDOG

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    4 year ago isn't that long. Its been two years since Conor fought in the division or at all in the UFC.

    There was a time when Killers like Frankie Edgar / Grey Maynard / B.J. Penn were all in their primes in the division. With a ton of other fighters that were also elite tough fighters. While the LW division still has some of the same fighters in it .. they have aged and are not the same fighters they were when the LW division was jammed packed full of talent. They were not equally replaced by new tallent. Sure a few stand outs came along but as many as there once was. Today Nate Diaz is considered a top fighter and a title contender. He is basically a win one .. loose one fighter and always has been.
     

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