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Kk guys seem to be dominating this with their swing and snap style leg kick, Rather than just the swing of a MMA/Mt guy.

Ultimately, it's looking like a more powerful and effective way of kicking. What's your guys thoughts on it?

 
I did look at it and found the KK guys had really good low kicks. But I also think from what I saw most „MT“ guys looked like middle aged hobbyists.
 
KK does have not bad low kicks at all and normal conditioning.
Usually more remarkable stuff is that they usually does have very strong head kicks while with relatively long set ups. This is due to FC type rules... ofc also body punches with hands are....

The coin is that under some rule sets they aren't allowed to punch head while might be allowed to kick head...
 
I wonder how much the conditioning has to do with it. Some younger and more progressive MT coaches focus on body conditioning, but for the most part as a sport, everybody’s lead leg gets conditioned by sparring.

if the KK guys have any advantage I’d bet it’s because of the body conditioning they do
 
I remember when I was still training Muay Thai techniques and Boxing techniques at my old gym. I still feel extreme amounts of pain from some of those low kicks that I withstood at that point in time.
 
I did look at it and found the KK guys had really good low kicks. But I also think from what I saw most „MT“ guys looked like middle aged hobbyists.

Get Superlek or Tawanchai in there and see how many legs they can break with their low kicks.
 
Get Superlek or Tawanchai in there and see how many legs they can break with their low kicks.

Never crossed my mind but great point. As someone else stated above the matchups seem to be higher level KK guys vs lower level MMA/etc
 
I wonder how much the conditioning has to do with it. Some younger and more progressive MT coaches focus on body conditioning, but for the most part as a sport, everybody’s lead leg gets conditioned by sparring.

if the KK guys have any advantage I’d bet it’s because of the body conditioning they do

Good points as well. Iead leg conditioned much more than the rear. Just a few are painful. A kick I think in general is under utilized, for myself.
 
KK does have not bad low kicks at all and normal conditioning.
Usually more remarkable stuff is that they usually does have very strong head kicks while with relatively long set ups. This is due to FC type rules... ofc also body punches with hands are....

The coin is that under some rule sets they aren't allowed to punch head while might be allowed to kick head...

This is what makes KK cool. All the kick techniques are more applicable under that rule set I think. Easier to catch them with their hands down
 
I remember when I was still training Muay Thai techniques and Boxing techniques at my old gym. I still feel extreme amounts of pain from some of those low kicks that I withstood at that point in time.

They definitely can do some damage
 
I did look at it and found the KK guys had really good low kicks. But I also think from what I saw most „MT“ guys looked like middle aged hobbyists.

I also noticed, the KK guys were following through with the kick, where as the other would bring back to stance
 
because Karate is actually great for kicking
 
I think it hits the nerve differently, so some of the conditioning doesn't apply.

If you have never gotten kicked before, your untrained nervous system thinks it is being killed, and freaks out. "Being conditioned," is half just teaching your nerves that being kicked isn't that big of a deal, and you are ok. If someone kicks you differently, it will hurt in a similar way as if you had not been kicked at all.

I also think that pushing off with the shin after landing a Muay Thai style kick makes it harder for the opponent to either kick you back or catch the kick. If you are used to the snapping style kick, it doesn't do anything to off balance you because it only causes trauma to the muscle where it hit. So if you aren't put off by the pain, you can kick back right away. And that's all people do in Kyokushin: stand in front of one another like rockem sockem robots trading body blows until someone flinches from the pain, and then they can throw a falling / jumping wheel kick, knowing that if they miss, the ref will protect them and stand them back up.

I think kyokushin kicking is fine, but it isn't the end all be all. If you are used to their kicks, you can pretty much just check them and throw straight punches at their face. Usually they can't grapple without grabbing your shirt, and they aren't used to parrying.

Look at how the kicker just stands there, straight as an arrow, putting his weight into the kick. Hands down. Head online. Slow to return to stance because he used the snap instead of the push. He couldn't do that in a regular kick boxing match, which is why in free style you see the snap kicks to the head more, instead of to the body or leg.
 
Is this power slap with leg kicks?

I don't like the concept of trading blows and just eating the shot.

Like this would be funny to do as a one off tournament at a gym bbq, but it removes all the sporting aspects of timing, checks, etc.
 
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