Looking to buy winning gloves...rakuten or winning usa?

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so im looking to get some lace up 16 oz training gloves, ive come across rakuten before and im just so skeptical, i think to myself...am i receiving and authentic product? how do i know its authentic? why are the gloves so much cheaper in comparison to winning usa...can anyone shed some light on this...would really appreciate it
 
I really do not want to insult you, but would you mind reading at least some of the Winning threads here first?
Because in ANY of them it has been answered many times.

But to answer your question: the gloves from America-Ya are absolutely the same as the gloves from Winning USA.
The rest you can easily find here yourself. If you are too lazy to search, I am too lazy to answer :icon_lol:

But because I am too kind, for exemple you can find it here in the top post.
https://www.facebook.com/WinningBoxingGear
 
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I have gloves from both Winning USA and Rakuten(Steve)

A custom gold pair 16oz lace from Winning USA

2 Custom colored 16oz lace from Rakuten
10oz lace from Rakuten

When comparing my gold pair to my rakuten pair there really isn't a notable difference. The only one difference I see is how often I'm using my Winning USA one--Simply because I'm looking to get the burnished gold look. Otherwise, the padding, tags, feel, softness,and all(except box) are all the same.

I had a Winning box for the 1st pair of gloves I received from Rakuten but ended up with a plain box when I received 2 pairs of gloves for my 2nd order.
 
It's a fair question, but yes, it has been answered heaps of times and guys like Shitzu have done a great job of explaining it more than a few times.

Time to bust out some classic gifs.......... (not meaning to offend the threadstarter)


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shihtzu said:
I really do not want to insult you, but would you mind reading at least some of the Winning threads here first?
Because in ANY of them it has been answered many times.

But to answer your question: the gloves from America-Ya are absolutely the same as the gloves from Winning USA.
The rest you can easily find here yourself. If you are too lazy to search, I am too lazy to answer :icon_lol:

But because I am too kind, for exemple you can find it here in the top post.
https://www.facebook.com/WinningBoxingGear
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Im sorry buddy but im looking for detail, I look through one entire post and I see that people say they are authentic but thats it...just a simple yes...how am I supposed to be confident in ordering from rakuten when you just say yes...and if your annoyed that I asked then please don't answer the post
 
what im looking for is some sort of indication of authenticity...like an insignia, and my other was question to why they are so cheap...there are knock offs everywhere and like I said before just because they look identical does not ensure authenticity
 
Look, dude, I really do not want to offend you, however... You are not too lazy to start a new needless thread, you are not too lazy to post here, but you are too lazy to take and advise Blair posted above and use SEARCH.

I answered your question there about 5 times in different Winning threads here.

Here is one of the posts:
shihtzu said:
There is no mystery. Winning company offers the gear in Japan to the distributors for the wholesale prices. They supposed nobody overseas is going to buy from the distributors in Japan so they thought they can do whatever they wish with the prices on winning-usa.com
Winning-usa.com rised the prices claiming the exchange rate JPY/USD changes. That was true then, however now the former exchange rate is gone with the wind. So not only the catalogue prices for Winning gear (Winning company's catalogue on the JPN web) are a slightely higher than some of their distributor prices in Japan (but not all, there is not only one seller on rakuten and the prices differ - some are just like winning-usa), but MOST IMPORTANT the YEN is now much lower than it used to be and the rakuten is all in YEN. THIS is why rakuten is cheaper. Cannnot understand why so many people consider this being a mystery. Just the basics of the global economy.
There is NO reason why the prices on rakuten would rise except the changes in YEN/USD (or EUR, GBP etc.) exchange rate.
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Is it clear, Sir?

Looking for details (as you claim you are) = searching. Always. In any area of life. Have you ever studied anything?

Searching/browsing Winning threads here would take you very little time. But it seems it's too much work for you.

Feel free to order from Winning USA, you will please them and you will please me too.
 
shihtzu said:
Look, dude, I really do not want to offend you, however... You are not too lazy to start a new needless thread, you are not too lazy to post here, but you are too lazy to take and advise Blair posted above and use SEARCH.

I answered your question there about 5 times in different Winning threads here.

Here is one of the posts:


Is it clear, Sir?

Looking for details (as you claim you are) = searching. Always. In any area of life. Have you ever studied anything?

Searching/browsing Winning threads here would take you very little time. But it seems it's too much work for you.

Feel free to order from Winning USA, you will please them and you will please me too.
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lol, someone is just being lazy = they don't get an answer

someone being a dick after being lazy = get them an answer

what kind of example are you trying to set here?

also, all real Winning gloves come with a Little Orphan Annie decoder
 
shihtzu said:
Look, dude, I really do not want to offend you, however... You are not too lazy to start a new needless thread, you are not too lazy to post here, but you are too lazy to take and advise Blair posted above and use SEARCH.

I answered your question there about 5 times in different Winning threads here.

Here is one of the posts:


Is it clear, Sir?

Looking for details (as you claim you are) = searching. Always. In any area of life. Have you ever studied anything?

Searching/browsing Winning threads here would take you very little time. But it seems it's too much work for you.

Feel free to order from Winning USA, you will please them and you will please me too.
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this is what I don't get, why do you have to be a jerk...if it bother you just can it and move on to the next post and there were several questions in my post not just price but how to determine authenticity...the facebook page you provided looks more like a fanpage then anything
 
Everyone on the forums who has bought Winnings on Rakuten are satisfied. Winning does not ship any symbols of authenticity like a certificate or seal so the only way to know if it's authentic is to compare another pair of Winnings and feel the material. I have attached two posts below.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/75797683-post208.html

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/76373847-post283.html

It is up to you to believe us, we don't profit from Winning USA or Rakuten so whatever decision you make won't impact us at all.
 
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I wish somebody similar comes here with the same wit and respect and starts another valuable thread like
"WTF?! Winning gloves are a crap, they are even not real leather!"

P.S.: For the newbies hypothetically reading this, the sentence above is a sarcasm, Winning gloves ARE made of the highest quality genuine leather.
 
shihtzu said:
I wish somebody similar comes here with the same wit and respect and starts another valuable thread like
"WTF?! Winning gloves are a crap, they are even not real leather!"

P.S.: For the newbies hypothetically reading this, the sentence above is a sarcasm, Winning gloves ARE made of the highest quality genuine leather.
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man you love posting on my thread...fall back buddy
 
Deathstriker said:
Everyone on the forums who has bought Winnings on Rakuten are satisfied. Winning does not ship any symbols of authenticity like a certificate or seal so the only way to know if it's authentic is to compare another pair of Winnings and feel the material. I have attached two posts below.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/75797683-post208.html

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/76373847-post283.html

It is up to you to believe us, we don't profit from Winning USA or Rakuten so whatever decision you make won't impact us at all.
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Thanks dude, and thanks for not being a jerk like the other guy
 
Not to beat a dead horse...but everything I have read about Rakuten has been positive. Most people from what I see order from there due to the fact that apparently it is a smoother transaction than dealing with Winning USA. When I go to buy a pair it will be from Rakuten. I feel good about it.
 
Quick question, Shihtzu.

I'm looking to get a pair of cm-5, but I don't see any listed on Rakuten. Can Steve get any item from Winning's catalog or does he only sell the items listed on Rakuten.
 
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