looking back at gsp s resume

prime for prime i d favor usman over anyone in gsp s resume even gsp himself

When were they simultaneously in their primes? When I look at their various fight records, Usman was untrained when GSP and his resume were in their primes (and actually he was still a teen when Hughes was in his prime), and GSP and his resume were old or even retired when Usman was in his prime. There's no overlap where a prime-prime fight could have happened, and as I said, without magic or a sci-fi time machine that means prime-vs-prime is like Superman-vs-Hulk, a fun fantasy discussion without any real world application.
 
UFC must be dying with all these threads about retired fighters.
 
Better resume by beating Journeyman George twice?

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Yup, Masvidal would destroy half(maybe 80 percent) of the people GSP beat.
Lol at Usman having more skills than GSP
Footstomping , cage grinding, rudimentary boxing, no kicking to speak of.... yes what a box of tools...
GSP will always be the WW Goat.
' Put some respect on the name' LOL

 
gsp was getting litt up on the feet by nick diaz ,masvidal would destroy him in a stand up fight
oh please, go watch the fight again , Diaz got a couple of punches in , whoop de whoop. What happened to the rest of the fight?, GSP dropping him on his arse and beating the piss out of him.
You guys will hold onto anything for a modicum of 'win' to be right about something.
heres the stats...doesnt look too ' lit up' to me
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No, he really wouldn't.

The guy who lost to Rustam Khabilov, Toby Imada, Paul Daley, Giblert, etc...


He also beat the likes of Till, Askren, cerrone,and nate diaz > Miller, Hardy, Serra, &frank trigg


Colby, Leon, Woodley, Maia, RDA, burns, Masvidalx2(due to him never being koed in the ufc) > GSP's best wins Fitch, Shields, Koshx2, Hughes. Sherk +Ls and cheating against undersized men

It's not just who you beat it's how you beat them. GSP is only above Usman due to GSP's filler fights and ducking dangerous fights to preserve his legacy
 
He also beat the likes of Till, Askren, cerrone,and nate diaz > Miller, Hardy, Serra, &frank trigg


Colby, Leon, Woodley, Maia, RDA, burns, Masvidalx2(due to him never being koed in the ufc) > GSP's best wins Fitch, Shields, Koshx2, Hughes. Sherk +Ls and cheating against undersized men

It's not just who you beat it's how you beat them. GSP is only above Usman due to GSP's filler fights and ducking dangerous fights to preserve his legacy
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Remove Serra from GSP's resume, he still has twice as many top 5 wins as FEdor.

Doesn't matter. WW rankings were a joke. It's a terrible indicator. Let me give you an example:

-Hardy became #4 after beating #7 Mike Swick.
-Brett Rogers only became #6 after beating #2 Arlovski.

If HW was as generous as WW, Brett Rogers would have been a top 4 HW, as he defeated a much higher opponent than Hardy did.
 
your a champion level figther when you become a champion if not you are a contender

No, championship level means you are at the level to fight for a championship. There isn't only one championship level fighter in each division, you're thinking of the champion, not championship level fighters.
 
Looking back, its better than Usman's
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Masvidal got his ranking by defeating Till (who got his ranking by beating Cerrone (who was on a 2-fight losing streak) and a questionable decision against Thompson in which Till didn't even make weight), Askren (who got his rank with a questionable fight against Lawler who'd been inactive for over a year), and Diaz (who got his rank by defeating Pettis), and then Usman got another ranked win by rematching Masvidal, despite Masvidal having not fought since their last bout.

What about Pettis jumping all the way up to #7 at Welterweight because of his single win against Thompson (and his only fight at Welterweight)?
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Cerrone was able to rise to #5 in the UFC's rankings with zero top five opponents ([Based on FightMatrix] #43-LW Alex Oliveira, #21-WW Patrick Cote, #16-WW Rick Story, and #21-WW Matt Brown):
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It's quite easy for fighters today to break into the top five rankings at Welterweight, to pretend otherwise is nothing more than bias.


That's false.

2010: #9 Zaromskis
2011: #9 Paul Daley, #6 B.J. Penn

If you're arguing that WW is still a generous division ranking-wise, I have no problem with that. Some divisions are more demanding that others. But there's no denying GSP's division was a joke and that his top 5 wins are unreliable to assess the quality of his competition.

Also, Bj Penn was ranked #9:

https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/5/Sherdog-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-35587

So Diaz beat 2 barely ranked fighters and somehow he became #2:

https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/5/Sherdogs-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-39259

Clearly, that division was a joke.
 
If Usman was actually GOAT, you haters wouldn't constantly need to make these comparison threads to GSP.

When GSP reaches WW GOAT level, no one was comparing him to Hughes. Even when it was getting close, people knew GSP was on a path to surpassing him. It was night and day that GSP was the GOAT.
 
GSP is definitely top ten GOAT. But a known cheater in the cage (grease), an hgh gut, and an inability to finish high level opponents puts him a few notches below Fedor, Anderson, Jones, and Khabib.
 
Doesn't matter. WW rankings were a joke. It's a terrible indicator. Let me give you an example:

-Hardy became #4 after beating #7 Mike Swick.
-Brett Rogers only became #6 after beating #2 Arlovski.

If HW was as generous as WW, Brett Rogers would have been a top 4 HW, as he defeated a much higher opponent than Hardy did.

That's because GSP had cleaned out WW at that time. HW by comparison was the most stacked it had been in years when Rogers beat Arlovski, across multiple organizations.

Easier to climb ranks in a division with a dominant champion.
 
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