Lloyd Irvin's students accused of brutal rape (Part 4)

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  1. deadlizard

    deadlizard cold blooded

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    Part 1 is here: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/wow-lloyd-irvin-students-accused-brutal-rape-2352919/

    Part 2 is here: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/lloyd-irvins-students-accused-brutal-rape-part-2-a-2353707/

    Part 3 is here: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/showthread.php?t=2357249

    http://lloydirvinrapist.com
    http://lloydirvinrapeexposed.com

    Schultz and Maldonado are arrested for NYE rape.
    http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/matthew-maldonado-nicholas-schultz-appear-in-court--83929.html

    Graphic Details on Schultz and Maldonado Case
    http://www.fightopinion.com/2013/01/12/court-lloyd-irvin-students-rape/

    Lloyd Irvin's 1990 rape case.
    http://articles.dailypress.com/1990-04-24/news/9004240277_1_jurors-gang-rape-case-girl
    http://articles.dailypress.com/1991-03-22/news/9103220070_1_witness-arrest-warrant-charged
    http://articles.dailypress.com/1990-04-21/news/9004210056_1_irvin-two-men-young-woman
    http://articles.dailypress.com/1990-04-20/news/9004200218_1_irvin-gang-rape-case-two-men
    http://articles.dailypress.com/1991...man-bowie-state-university-hampton-university
    http://articles.dailypress.com/1991-06-25/news/9106250068_1_raped-dorm-room-trial

    Phil Proctor calling the victim a dirty whore.
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/1/1...t-head-instructor-at-wrightson-bjj-calls-1989

    As a bonus, Lloyd's SOMBO instructor is a convicted paedo.
    http://federal-circuits.vlex.com/vid/usa-v-densberger-41167091
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12705
    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=2117174&forum=1&page=1&pc=29

    Screenshots of Chloe Cornelius' dialog with TLI.
    http://s1322.beta.photobucket.com/user/dasryeitsme/library/?src=wap
     
  2. voxom

    voxom Red Belt

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    same thing i posted at the end of the last thread

    "can we just ban devnull? it's clear he's just trying to start a flame war at this point and hopefully get these threads locked from here on.

    nobody can be that stupid in regards to everything. example calling beta martial arts cowards for breaking the affiliation with TLI."
     
  3. anaconda

    anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    No need to ban him. I think he is misguided and since english is his second language is having trouble comprehending how much evidence is gathered against his master.

    I think he will come around, eventually.

    Otherwise, he insinuates that he is very close to the situation. I think he should be kept around so we get an idea of whats going on behind the scenes.
     
  4. ArchAngelos

    ArchAngelos Blue Belt

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    ^ Agree with Anaconda.

    If anything, guys like Devnull, Avellan and Proctor are just going to keep the decent people in the BJJ/MMA community motivated to see this through.

    Keep it coming Devnull!
     
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    michaeltn White Belt

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    I am currently lobbying Virginia candidates running for state office to drastically increase the penalty for anyone participating in a gang rape. Maybe it will take hold in other localities as well.
     
  6. madgrappler

    madgrappler Green Belt

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    That's it exactly. All the damage to TLI here is self-inflicted. They could have put a tourniquet on this a long time ago, instead they decided the right way to respond to a slice through the femoral artery was to open up their wrists too.

    Nice work, geniuses. Keep it up.
     
  7. devnull

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    I am not here to motivate you for your own agenda. I am here for my own and that is that LLoyd is changed acquitted man that is building something good not only for him but the entire BJJ community. He has done nothing been been supportive for the victim. The other actions he has done, buying lloyd irvin rape, and shutting down his page are for his and victims protection and his right to do so, and of course the trolls posting negativity on his personal fan page.

    This is the internet information is not easy to hide anymore, you have that web site that was created to spread the information that he was acquitted for, use that, don't attack him on his own site personally, that's messed up.

    In time, end of the case your questions will be answered, maybe not all of them but you will see Lloyds true nature he is a great man and a good person and a family man.
     
  8. madgrappler

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    If his acquittal was the last word, why did he need to change? Did he become worse?

    I just asked if he was going to respond on the TLI page, did that make me a troll? I got deleted and banned instantly.


    He has the right to be anything from a despicable monster to a complete asshole, and its our right to call him on it.
     
  9. madgrappler

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    How do you know? You live in his house?
     
  10. devnull

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    Calling on him during a period of silence because ongoing events is like asking a blind person to see the light.
     
  11. anaconda

    anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    I'll ask you again:

    You claimed that the 2 events (1989 and NYE rapes) are not related.

    But then you claim he cannot answer anything about the old event due to the new one.

    Which one is it? Are these events related, or not?
     
  13. madgrappler

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    You've already admitted he could speak on it if he wanted to, he just doesn't.

    Try again.
     
  14. michaeltn

    michaeltn White Belt

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    LLoyd Irvin could still be brought up on charges from that 1989 case. He could be tried with different charges such as kidnapping and assault and battery which have no limit in Virginia's Statute of Limitations.
     
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    That may be technically possible but I have a hard time seeing that happening.
     
  16. deadlizard

    deadlizard cold blooded

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    Seriously guys, I mean this mob has gone on for a while.

    What will it take for you guys (or the community for that matter) to move on from this? Everyone makes mistakes and we all know how easy it is to be blinded or coerced by peer pressure.

    I've done things in my past that I regret. But it would be unfair for people that I do business with to judge me based on my actions 20+ years ago. I'm a different person, my thought process has changed, the person 20+ years ago would not recognize me today.

    I mean, I'm assuming Lloyd has leared a lot from the mistakes he made. Other than a public statement, what else?
     
  17. devnull

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    They want the downfall of his empire and his blood apparently. That is why I call it a witch hunt and a mob.
     
  18. michaeltn

    michaeltn White Belt

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    Not likely I know but he may have legal reason to keep his mouth shut. If this whole thing gets disgusting enough though it could be reason to re-investigate the case. Given that a pattern of behavior seems to be occuring.
     
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    What pattern of behavior do you suggest? Please list the patterns and timelines regarding him personally. You can't, because they don't exist. The two events are not related to each other.
     
  20. mabus6

    mabus6 White Belt

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    devnull


    he's also a rapist.
     
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