Little Guys in Lifting

Discussion in 'Strength & Conditioning Discussion' started by James Fuller, Oct 16, 2010.

  1. James Fuller

    James Fuller Amateur Fighter

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    Ok first I was wondering how many people here are less than about 180 (which in powerlifting seems pretty small)? Also did anyone have some vids or know of any strong "small guys" I could checkout? Nothing really to offer I guess besides thinking about how training with much different body structures can affect the end result

    I know in grappling and striking it is such a benefit in fostering heart, skill and confidence (for me anyway) but how is lifting impacted (big guys do you get anything out of lifting with much smaller guys)?

    Personally I like lifting with mw-hw because 1. They push me to lift heavier than I might in a group of my peers. Which some might justly argue is a bad thing sometimes but as for myself, I am a natural pussy and need the threats in order to get anything done 2. They intimidate people enough that I get easy access to the squat/power racks as a member of the group. I call this the "bird riding rhino approach."
     
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    miaou barely keeping it together

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    joshetc butthole hurts from teh gay

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    I weigh 170.. and lift pretty much the same as anyone else. can't deadlift 500 something for 26 reps though
     
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    pjmeunyc12 Purple Belt

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    james check out joe mazza, he goes from 165-175 lbs does both raw and geared, he's beastly. He is gonna go for the all time 485 raw at 165lbs next year I believe. Here's a clip of him slaying 450 raw at 175 lbs. I dont know how to embed, just copy paste link.

    YouTube - 2010 Kings of the Bench
     
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    I prefer to lift alone. But If I had to have a partner it would be someone around the same strength level......or could atleast give me a decent spot lol. I also haven't weighed under 180 since I was 16.
     
  7. CRZA

    CRZA Purple Belt

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    little guys ?
    like this:
     
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    What - the - frakk - am I looking at?
     
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    That is both hilarious and awesome at the same time.
     
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    Eric Cressey competes at 165.
     
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    At 165, Tony Conyers, Brian Schwab, Jamie McDougal, and Eric Talmant. And Joe Mazza for bench press, though he's a bench press specialist, I believe.
     
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    From the Sherdog's Strongest 2010 Thread:

     
  14. Cratos

    Cratos Banned Banned

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    Powerlifting has weight classes.

    How many fighters weigh less than 160? (Which, for fighting, seems pretty small.)
     
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    In terms of power lifting this may be slightly off topic but I know one really small guy names Naim Suleymanoglu who competes in Olympic weightlifting. He weighs like 140 pounds in his old competition days and did a 3 times body weight clean and jerk and a 2.5 times body weight snatch. He is extremely explosive and unbelievably powerful.
     
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    James Fuller Amateur Fighter

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    Someone is being a semantic nit picker, I am sorry you get butt hurt easily. And this has literally nothing to do with my original post but I will try to explain.

    The difference is the majority of fights and guys training in mma are under 170. Seems weird since its not what sells or is broadcast the most but go down to local shows of which there are hundreds each weekend around the country and you get many more 155ers than heavies.

    Now, you tell me because I honestly don't know (which is why I asked the question), is that the case in powerlifting? Or are the majority of your local and national trainees and competitors heavier? Bc I noticed ancedotally that I don't see a lot of the lighter guys lifting like pl's and I was curious as to the facts and/or experiences of people more involved than myself. Btw if small guys arnt lifting more like powerlifters and or heavier guys that's to their detriment.

    Its not a value judgement in anyway, I am not saying nor ever was implying that fighting is better in anyway or powerlifting is worse if the demographics truly do line up with my very limited experience. No big deal.

    Anyway thanks everyone some great names to wikipedia/youtube! And that dudes totals are very motivating/awe inspiring...time to drink more milk :)
     
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    Cratos Banned Banned

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    You read way too much into that post. Where did it seem like I was "butt-hurt"?

    I was simply pointing out that powerlifting, like fighting, has weight classes, therefore you cannot be "too small" for powerlifting.

    In powerlifting and fighting, you are going to have more guys in the lighter weight classes because, well, they're closer to the average size of a human being.

    How many people do you pass on the street that weigh ~250 lbs and are in good athletic shape? (Fighting)

    How many people do you pass on the street that weigh over 275 or 308 lbs that aren't just simply fat? (Powerlifting)
     
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    milano I am the Walrus

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    Yeah no shit, he's only considered the best weightlifter of all time.
     
  19. XTrainer

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    I think you answered your own question right here. It's basically the same situation in strength sports: Lots of smaller guys compete, but bigger guys tend to attract a lot more attention. To the uninitiated, it's more of a spectacle to see big guys fighting or big guys picking up really big weight than to see little guys fighting or little guys picking up relatively big weight.

    Of course, I think we can agree that the more one participates in and understands a given sport, the less one cares about the weight class distinctions. Is it more impressive to see someone clean and jerk 3x his own bodyweight, or to see someone clean and jerk the most weight, period? I don't know. They're both awesome. I look at combat sports the same way. Is a slick submission any more impressive in one weight class vs. another? I don't really think so.
     
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    A superhuman :D
     

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