Liberal Hollywood kills another great Character....

He certainly is in The Hunt for Red October from when Alec Baldwin still looked young. The casting seems pretty much on point so far. Granted, I'm only 3 episodes in, but nothing Ryan has done as yet qualifies him as an "action hero." And it shouldn't as that's never really been the character (at least not in film).

That’s also a good point. There’s been some fighting on his behalf but he’s not exactly John McClain.
 
It's still war porn that glorifies the military industrial complex. Clancy was a propagandist and a boring one at that. Have a cry about it, TS. I will pray for you.
I still enjoy this stuff as entertainment but that's fair.

Making the villains sympathetic in this show is ultimately going to amount to the audience being expected to agree that defending ourselves is the right thing to do even when the conflict is partially or mostly of our own making.
 
He still looks like Jim with those big ass ears, though.

I think that’s what it is. Hard to imagine him breaching a room without getting his ear shot off before he’s even in the doorway.
 
It's been about 4 or 5 years now where I watch almost zero television shows or movies. Pretty much anything with a script, acting, or hollywood produced I have no interest in. I don't say that out of spite or determination. I really, truly don't care to watch any of it. Give me some sports, a documentary, a speech, a podcast, a debate, a sermon, a how to video or something. But keeps your movies and tv shows.

The one show I did continue to watch was Big Brother but then even they started inserting trannies and gays in every cast and then focusing on those issues and stereotypes until I lost interest in that also.

Liberals ruin everything.
 
It's been about 4 or 5 years now where I watch almost zero television shows or movies. Pretty much anything with a script, acting, or hollywood produced I have no interest in. I don't say that out of spite or determination. I really, truly don't care to watch any of it. Give me some sports, a documentary, a speech, a podcast, a debate, a sermon, a how to video or something. But keeps your movies and tv shows.

The one show I did continue to watch was Big Brother but then even they started inserting trannies and gays in every cast and then focusing on those issues and stereotypes until I lost interest in that also.

Liberals ruin everything.


I know right! In the Old Testament God was a ruthless ruler. In the New Testament, we have to deal with that liberal hippy Jesus, ugh.
 
It's been about 4 or 5 years now where I watch almost zero television shows or movies. Pretty much anything with a script, acting, or hollywood produced I have no interest in. I don't say that out of spite or determination. I really, truly don't care to watch any of it. Give me some sports, a documentary, a speech, a podcast, a debate, a sermon, a how to video or something. But keeps your movies and tv shows.

The one show I did continue to watch was Big Brother but then even they started inserting trannies and gays in every cast and then focusing on those issues and stereotypes until I lost interest in that also.

Liberals ruin everything.
you can say most tv or movies are pretty average, and id agree with you, but then you go and fuck it up by being a Big brother fan....
 
I know right! In the Old Testament God was a ruthless ruler. In the New Testament, we have to deal with that liberal hippy Jesus, ugh.

Jesus isn't a liberal hippy tho. That's just a common, contrived trope that only works for those who don't know the Word.
 
It's been about 4 or 5 years now where I watch almost zero television shows or movies. Pretty much anything with a script, acting, or hollywood produced I have no interest in. I don't say that out of spite or determination. I really, truly don't care to watch any of it. Give me some sports, a documentary, a speech, a podcast, a debate, a sermon, a how to video or something. But keeps your movies and tv shows.

The one show I did continue to watch was Big Brother but then even they started inserting trannies and gays in every cast and then focusing on those issues and stereotypes until I lost interest in that also.

Liberals ruin everything.
Wanna know what sort of television has no liberal nonsense whatsoever and that I highly recommend?
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you can say most tv or movies are pretty average, and id agree with you, but then you go and fuck it up by being a Big brother fan....

Say what you want but Big Brother has/had a great premise. It's basically a big social experiment that puts a bunch of strangers in a house and the only way to survive is through lies, manipulation, and backstabbing. When done right its a good show.
 
Jesus isn't a liberal hippy tho. That's just a common, contrived trope that only works for those who don't know the Word.

We can discuss that another time, lets not pull to far off topic. I can definitely see social conservatives would feel that liberals are pushing an agenda.
 
We can discuss that another time, lets not pull to far off topic. I can definitely see social conservatives would feel that liberals are pushing an agenda.

Well that is good that you can see why they might feel that way. But can you also see that it's actually happening and not just something conservatives 'feel'?
 
It's been about 4 or 5 years now where I watch almost zero television shows or movies. Pretty much anything with a script, acting, or hollywood produced I have no interest in. I don't say that out of spite or determination. I really, truly don't care to watch any of it. Give me some sports, a documentary, a speech, a podcast, a debate, a sermon, a how to video or something. But keeps your movies and tv shows.

The one show I did continue to watch was Big Brother but then even they started inserting trannies and gays in every cast and then focusing on those issues and stereotypes until I lost interest in that also.

Liberals ruin everything.

You should try Cosmos. I think you'll love it.
 
Why are you surprised at the French being given that dubious honor? They were colonizers and even tested their nuclear bombs in Algeria during the war of independence between the two. Since then tens of thousands of Algerians have been affected in various ways, from cancer to blindness. Not saying innocent French people deserve to die but its not like France has a recent history that is squeaky clean like, they were pieces of shit for quite a bit there so it makes sense to include them among the white guilt nations.

Nobody is saying the French government hasn't done things in Africa that wouldn't create enemies. You have to kind of watch the show. The head terrorist, according to his backstory, just sort of happened into being a terrorist through the actions of others, namely racist Western Countries.
 
Yeah, I don't get what the TS is complaining about. It's not like the producers decided to make Ryan a transgender Muslim or anything.

Or rewrite him as a mary sue female.
 
Nobody is saying the French government hasn't done things in Africa that wouldn't create enemies. You have to kind of watch the show. The head terrorist, according to his backstory, just sort of happened into being a terrorist through the actions of others, namely racist Western Countries.
Well when you said this
The French apparently have been added to the list of "Groups who somehow deserve to have innocent citizens fall victim to terrorist attack", along with the Western World in general. .
it almost came off as to you being oblivious as to why the French would be associated with the wrongs of the West in the Muslim world. If you were aware why are you shocked? We're not exactly talking about Switzerland or Norway here.
 
Was Jack Ryan always a former Marine? I’d buy him as a happenstance action star, a normal guy thrown into a tough situation. But he (Kraz... Krazinn... you know, Jim) doesn’t quite carry himself the right way. But it’s a pretty minor complaint.

I’m not expecting any Emmy award winning episodes. Hopefully just some entertaining war porn.

He was, but if I remember right he wasn't an infantry officer, and he was injured in a chopper crash early in his commission. Jack Ryan isn't the super alpha male action hero dude. Those dude in Tom Clancy's world are John Clark and Ding Chavez. Ryan isn't that dude. He happens into having to get into fights through circumstance, but isn't some former Special Operations, and certainly isn't a SAD guy like the other two. He's a history teacher and a broker who starts as a consutant for the CIA. He is far from a field guy, and that's the point of his story.
 
Well that is good that you can see why they might feel that way. But can you also see that it's actually happening and not just something conservatives 'feel'?


Almost every issue is more complex than just simply point to one thing. Yes people push their agenda, everyone does right, left, and everything in between. Our social structure is always in flex, the United States social structure has been heavily changing due to civil rights since the women's rights movement. I support treating everyone as equals. Trannies are weird to me, I have admitted it, but they still face heavy Social stigmas just because of how they decide to dress. People need to be judged on their actions not appearance.
 
What is it with basement dwelling incels always finding something "librul" to whine about?
 
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