Crime Let's debate how many illegals are in the country

[Richmma80]

I keep seeing the news mentioning 10 million illegals.

Back when I was in high school in the 90s, I remember when illegal immigration was the hot topic of the minute, they mentioned 10 million illegals.

It's 2025. That was 30 fucking years ago. How do we still only have 10 million when we've only been deporting like 1% of the ones pouring in

 

[Khaosan]

 

[Rational Poster]

I keep seeing the news mentioning 10 million illegals.

Back when I was in high school in the 90s, I remember when illegal immigration was the hot topic of the minute, they mentioned 10 million illegals.

It's 2025. That was 30 fucking years ago. How do we still only have 10 million when we've only been deporting like 1% of the ones pouring in

Net immigration over the southern border was near 0 including illegals for the majority of the last 30 years.

That means, people come and people go.

 

[Spam On Rye]

There's way more than the media is reporting. Of that you can be sure.

 

[lowlife]

are we debating or guessing? I guess 50 million.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

bout tree fiddy million

 

[Hog-train]

The NY Times had a recent article about this. It's an estimated 14 million that are considered undocumented, illegal or migrants with temporary permissions to stay in the country.

NY Times: Who Are the Millions of Immigrants Trump Wants to Deport?

About 40% have temporary permission to stay under different programs, so they are legal for now. 60% are completely illegal.

The breakdown of those with permission to stay:

1.1 million have Temporary Protected Status (TPS)
540,000 are DACA or Dreamers - they were kids when they came
2.6 million are waiting on an existing asylum claim
280,000 are under some other deferred action
240,000 Ukrainians - Allowed in through a special Biden pathway called Humanitarian Parole
77,000 Afghans - Allowed in through Humanitarian Parole
530,000 Cubans, Haitians, Venezuelans, and Nicaraguans - Allowed in through Humanitarian Parole
940,000 CBP One Applicants - App used to allow easy entry for future asylum case. This has now been shuttered by Trump.

655,000 illegals have criminal convictions or charges. Only a small fraction of these are in ICE custody.

1.4 million already have official deportation orders, but we don't have the manpower or funds to deport them all.

6.3 million have pending or paused removal cases and are in limbo. Will take years to see a judge due to the backlog and so are just living in the country.

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Guess what number Im holding up, then feel free to add as many zero’s as you would like is my guess

 

[Whippy McGee]

I think the number is between 22 million and 30 million... it's quite a range, but I think accurate. I find the 11 million to 18 million claims to be unbelievable when you realize what their start date is to calculate. It's what happens when we give Democrats power and they think illegals will consolidate their power.

 

[lsa]

oh we are guessing stuff?
I say

I mean 35 million uhm people!!

 

[NoSmilez]

I keep seeing the news mentioning 10 million illegals.

Back when I was in high school in the 90s, I remember when illegal immigration was the hot topic of the minute, they mentioned 10 million illegals.

It's 2025. That was 30 fucking years ago. How do we still only have 10 million when we've only been deporting like 1% of the ones pouring in

They come in and also leave. Some die and others become legal.

 

[cincymma79]

If you go by the banks it’s 20-30 million. Yale said 20 a while back. I’ve seen 11 tossed around. I’m going to say it’s probably closer to 20 than it is 10

 

[Whippy McGee]

If you go by the banks it’s 20-30 million. Yale said 20 a while back. I’ve seen 11 tossed around. I’m going to say it’s probably closer to 20 than it is 10

I think you're right... all the sub 20 million numbers are propaganda.

Yale Study Finds Twice as Many Undocumented Immigrants as Previous Estimates

New research suggests that the population of undocumented immigrants in the United States may be 22 million, nearly twice what has been believed.

insights.som.yale.edu

The number is likely closer to 30 million than 20 million, but who knows after the last 4 months?

 

[oldshadow]

A fuck ton too many. Simple math.

 

[Osculater]

Over one billion