Lets create the perfect base for mma

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  1. Nickynoneck

    Nickynoneck Purple Belt

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    I am just using this as a seqway from another thread that was posted about the best base for mma .

    ok here's mine

    Starting wrestling at the age of 5 until 16 they start bjj/judo and at 23 start muay thai

    IMHO I think this would be perfect to way to lay out the best mma athlete
     
  2. Andrew Green

    Andrew Green White Belt

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    How about someone that just starts training MMA from age 5. Maybe joins the wrestling team as well, does some amateur boxing as a teenager, but has MMA as the base right from day 1.
     
  3. ramzie4718

    ramzie4718 Blue Belt

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    Wrestling at 6-7.

    Boxing at 13-14.

    BJJ at 16-17.

    MMA amateur matches at 19-20.
     
  4. YeahBee

    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    I don't think future MMA champs will be like that

    to become really really awesome you need to focus specifically on one art



    We fans should enjoy a wide range of styles anyway so

    most of the combat arts are great bases for kids/teens, just need to switch earlier.

    the wrestling guys should maybe do it abit earlier, you are what 22-23 when you get out of college? maybe start up some boxing/bjj on the side

    BJJ has crosstraining ingrained earlier, maybe it is starting to change with judo aswell,

    We haven't seen Ishii come into his own yet, young and worldclass judo

    just look at what waves Karo and Sokodjou did switching over early and they have nowhere near the judo Ishii got



    Judo is picking that up aswell
     
  5. Mickey Oneil

    Mickey Oneil Orange Belt

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    Wrestling age 6-adulthood
    Kyokushin Karate 5-18

    Adult hood learns boxing and judo
     
  6. Jimmy Cerra

    Jimmy Cerra Amateur Fighter

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    I know so many wrestlers who quit when they reached middle or high school. Many Thai fighters start young too, then retire at 25 since they are too beat up. Even Gracies get burned out too.

    On the other hand, I know awesome wrestlers who started in high school or even later! I know BJJ guys who start young, start old, or started in the middle. I know Thai guys who started late, and those who were indoctrinated since they were young.

    There is no perfect path in martial arts. Everyone has to find their own way.
     
  7. SpaceBoogie

    SpaceBoogie The Autumn Wind Is A Raider

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    Can't learn Mixed Martial Arts when you haven't even learned one Martial Art yet IMO.
     
  8. Wrathbeans

    Wrathbeans Orange Belt

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    jimmy is right.
     
  9. Fallen

    Fallen Brown Belt

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    I agree that learning and "mastering" or attaining a high level of proficiency in one "art" starting from a young age (probably wrestling) is the best way to go for the purposes of MMA. It seems that the transition from wrestling to other grappling arts (judo, bjj) is a lot smoother, and it gives you beast cardio and strength.

    So I'd say, start wrestling young, pick up Muay Thai/Boxing somewhere along the way, and then transition to learning another grappling art (probably BJJ).
     
  10. Pahlavan**

    Pahlavan** White Belt

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    I think the best base is Caesium hydroxide
     
  11. DiscipleOfPog

    DiscipleOfPog Green Belt

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    I agree.
    Great football players play football when they're 5 years old.
    Great baseball players play baseball when they're 5 years old.
    Great guitar players play guitar when they're 5 years old.
    Great painters paint when they're 5 years old.

    If you wanna get better at something, do that thing.
     
  12. Giant Midget

    Giant Midget Blue Belt

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    My base is

    Muay Thai at 7, still doing it.
    BJJ at 22, still doing it.
    Wrestling... I'll cross that bridge when it comes to it :rolleyes: LOL.
     
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    Boxing. Everyone knows pro boxers would crush everyone in MMA:icon_chee
     
  14. knoxpk

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    I say start the opposite of the 1st few posts. BJJ early, it is easy on the body and gets the kid used to rolling. By JR HS he can begin to work in wrestling and compete all 4 years of HS.

    In case you are wondering Josh Desilvera (look him up) took up wrestling in HS (I think) and he is the 10th ranked senior in the US now. He is Conan's son and iirc did not do wrestling till he was a freshman.

    Anyway wrestler through HS and add the striking at the end of the senior year, work on that for 2 years and BOOM ready to start low level shows at the tender age of 20 where he can go to a good camp. If he becomes AWESOME at wrestling, then he goes on to college and gets even better. Yet he still has the BJJ base and striking during the wrestling off season. Then at 22-24 gets into a MMA camp to work more on his striking and submissions again.



     
  15. redaxe

    redaxe Silver Belt

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    Wrestling and BJJ from middle school through high school--do BJJ in the wrestling offseason.

    Start mixing in Muay Thai classes with the BJJ after high school when wrestling is over
     
  16. YeahBee

    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    Yeah but you gotta say that with the physical punishment involved in wrestling and judo for the best outcome possible you gotta do it when you are a kid. a kid can just be thrown more then an adult, and judo/wrestling is "simpler" in a way,

    BJJ is more technical and less dependent on physical attributes and reactions, and BJJ have several dudes at the absolute top that started relatively late, sure talentpool is also smaller but I think that the nature of the art plays a major factor
     
  17. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    Perfect Base for MMA would be ideally a MMA school!

    I like the Shooto school systems in Japan.
     
  18. Shulom1***

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    So true... can't imagine how long someone could train in it though
     
  19. KJGould

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  20. shouldercharge

    shouldercharge Dave Camarillo idoliser

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    gymnastics at age 4,judo from age 6.at age 12 start adding in cross training in bjj and from17 amature boxing.
    age 20 mma.continuing with specific training in either boxing or bjj.
     

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