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Let Us Use The Scoring System Not Emotion To Decide Who Won.

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Doctor Lenovo, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Doctor Lenovo Banned Banned

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    PRIORITIZED CRITERIA:
    Effective Striking/Grappling:
    Reyes won effective striking. Jones won effective grappling. So, this criteria is a draw.
    Effective Aggressiveness: Jones was clearly the more aggressive fighter.
    Fighting Area Control: Jones was clearly the more in control of the Octagon fighter.

    OTHER CRITERIA:

    Impact : Jones wins because he had Reyes visibly bleeding and lacerated.
    Dominance: Jones wins because he spent more time attacking and pushing Reyes back.
    Duration: Same as above.

    Based on these rules, it is not incompetent to judge Jon Jones as the winner. Fans are only looking at the "ooh, aah!" action. Judges are looking at everything. The scoring is a bigger problem than the judges.

    https://mmareferee.com/?q=unifiedrules
     
  2. NuMe Green Belt

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    Fights are scored by rounds.
     
  3. suhdude Blue Belt

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    i mean reyes had more strikes in round 1,2,3 ... jones had no TDS in thos rounds... its not rocket science kids
     
  4. Coolkid666 Black Belt

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    Jones won on effective strikes too. Them leg kicks. Didnt see him rocked from Doms punches
     
  5. ZOD66 Brown Belt

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    Jones won 3:2, Reyes gas out
     
  6. CPH street lethal

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    LOL at your hilariously clueless interpretation of the criteria.

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  7. loyalyolayal Banned Banned

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    He runaway 3-4x. Doesn't have the footwork or counter punching skills to negate Reyes' early aggression.
     
  8. Arrrrgh Black Belt

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    The problem is it's subjective under the old system texas uses.

    Under the Unified Rules it is not. Reyes would have one clearly. Effective striking/grappling are the only thing considered in each round if a fighter has a clear edge. Reyes did.

    Jon won because the fight was in Texas.
     
  9. ki11ian Green Belt

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    You are either retarded or a shill, in case of the first ”ok”, in case of the second ”fuck off”.
     
  10. Doctor Lenovo Banned Banned

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    It is not my interpretation of the criteria. I gave the link to the reference I used. The problem with my post, as others have already pointed out, is that I completely forgot that MMA fights are judged per round.
     
  11. CPH street lethal

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    Moving forward while getting outstruck, and actually having a LOWER output is not aggression or octagon control, it’s just following the other guy around.
     
  12. HardasNAILZ Black Belt

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    Jon Jones won the fight. OK BROS?
     
  13. HardasNAILZ Black Belt

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    Would have been a great fight if Jones had just stood there eh? Reyes was a joke in my opinion.
     
  14. Arrrrgh Black Belt

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    True but the old rules are too subjective and open for judges interpretation. Under the Unified Rules, if there is a clear striking and grappling edge then that's the round winner.

    Different judges in Texas could have had a different result but that's the problem, they can defend it however they want.
     
  15. MRT Red Belt

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    False equivalency...you can't rule it a 'draw' in striking and grappling when the striking played a FAR bigger and longer role in the fight. You don't just tick a box for Reyes on striking and tick a box for Jones on grappling and call it a draw. Given that, it undermines much of what you say afterwards, since striking/grappling is the first priority in the scoring criteria.

    It is not 'incompetent' to judge the fight for Jones...but most people seem to agree that a stronger case is made for Reyes winning the fight than Jones.

    And I would say that a substantial proportion of people here are more competent and knowledgeable than a lot of the judges out there...so don't be too quick to dismiss what fans are seeing. Many of us have been watching MMA for a LOT longer and have seen WAY more fights than some of these commission clowns ;)
     
  16. NoBiasJustMMA Steel Belt

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    That's not how it works, there was way more striking than grappling so just cause Jones got two takedowns that lead to nothing doesn't make that a draw when he got out struck 3 rounds in a row and there was like 14+ minutes of striking and only a few seconds of grappling.

    Reyes won effective striking and the fight was 14+ minutes of striking, Reyes won by the scoring criteria.
     
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    How can you score aggressiveness? Would Anderson Silva lose decisions because he was a counter fighter?
     
  18. Foghorn Leghorn Purple Belt

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    50-45 Jones
     
  19. BabyBlue_Bomber Red Belt

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    More strikes does not equal effective strikes.

    In round 2 Reyes was trying to simply shoeshine Jones with his hands, and not really hurt him. His only real effective strikes were his low kicks...

    The strikes Jones landed, even though there were less of them, were harder and more effective than those Reyes landed.
     
  20. Tweak896 Black Belt

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    Reyes was kind of like an aggressive, larger machida, but less technical. Jones kept pressing forward. It did go back and forth and Jones escaped too when he needed, so not exactly black and white. Overall Jones controlled the center and the pressure. Reyes had good counters until he ran out of gas.
     

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