Legend or Not a Legend

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  1. NHB7

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    Legend or Not a Legend

    I feel like the word “Legend” gets thrown around quite liberally on here. I think part of the reason this is done is because we do not have an operational definition for “Legend.” And yet there are some fighters we all unquestionably know are “Legends.” These are fighters whom I assume 90% or more of hardcore fans would agree are legends. So somehow, for some fighters, we just inherently know that Royce Gracie is a legend, that Fedor Emelianenko is a legend etc. But what I want to delineate is those that are closer to the grey line. Eg. Big Nog, Pride HW champions with some defenses, most people agree is a legend vs. Tim Sylvia, two time UFC HW champion with some defenses, few people consider him a legend. So what I plan to do is list below those I think are unquestionably legends because I imagine 90% or more agree. Those I think most people probably agree. And those that are really on the grey line.
    You don’t need to get all worked up if you disagree with my choices, because I’m asking that you share your choices as well and where you would place them. Ultimately, I’m going to take a collection of all of our choices and put them in a series of polls to determine, whom does Sherdog consider to be a legend, and whom does sherdog not consider worthy of the moniker legend. When I see conclusively who is in and who is out, I may have a better sense of the variables that delineate a legend from a non – legend in sherdog’s minds:

    Unquestionably Legends:
    Anderson Silva
    Bas Rutten
    Fedor Emelianenko
    Kazushi Sakuraba
    Ken Shamrock
    Masakatsu Funaki
    Randy Couture
    Royce Gracie
    Rickson Gracie


    Probably Legends:
    BJ Penn
    Chuck Liddell
    Dan Henderson
    Dan Severn
    Don Frye
    Frank Mir
    Frank Shamrock
    Georges St. Pierre
    Gina Carano
    Igor Vovchanchyn
    Jens Pulver
    Jose Aldo
    Kazuo Takahashi
    Lyoto Machida
    Marco Ruas
    Mark Coleman
    Matt Hughes
    Minotauro Nogueira
    Mirko Filipovic
    Pat Miletich
    Quinton Jackson
    Ronda Rousey
    Sean Sherk
    Takanori Gomi
    Tim Sylvia
    Tito Ortiz
    Yuki Nakai
    Vitor Belfort
    Wanderlei Silva

    Possibly Legends:
    Brock Lesnar
    Caol Uno
    Cain Velasquez
    Carlos Newton
    Chael Sonnen
    Conor McGregor
    Cristianie "Cyborg" Justino
    David Abbott
    Egan Inoue
    Enson Inoue
    Genki Sudo
    Hayato Sakurai
    Hidehiko Yoshida
    Ikuhisa Minowa
    Jason Delucia
    Josh Barnett
    Jon Jones
    Mark Hunt
    Mark Kerr
    Matt Serra
    Maurice Smith
    Nick Diaz
    Jeremy Horn
    Kazuo Misaki
    Kid Yamamoto
    Kimo Leopoldo
    Kiyoshi Tamura
    Mario Sperry
    Mauricio Shogun Rua
    Megumi Fuji
    Murillo Bustamante
    Oleg Taktarov
    Pedro Rizzo
    Renzo Gracie
    Rich Franklin
    Shinya Aoki
    Travis Fulton (in his own right)
    Tsuyoshi Koksaka
    Yuki Kondo
     
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  2. NHB7

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    For the record under Unquestionably Legends and Possibly Legends, in my book are all Legends. But under Possibly Legends, I'm not sure. Some I consider more legendary than others.
     
  3. ib313

    ib313 Imagine a Dystopian UFC

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    sigh
     
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    I would put GSP as unquestionable legend

    You wrote Fedor in your intro but didnt add him to the list FYI
     
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    i'll check back in here in a thousand years to see who we still tell stories about and let you know
     
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    Jones and GSP are locks. Aldo too.
     
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    Aldo, Penn and Hendo are no doubt legends.
     
  8. glennrod

    glennrod Just like mountain, ya paying your dues

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    Fedor Emelianenko is NOT an unquestionable legend? :icon_neut
     
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    Cant see Vitor on that lists
     
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    Imo Tito, Tank and Vitor are locks.
     
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    What's his records against 40+ year old middleweights?
     
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    glennrod Just like mountain, ya paying your dues

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    oooh..nice response. whats his unparalleled record in the HW division in its entirety?. I will give you a clue..its enough to make even the biggest bitches shut the fuck up. also, it wasnt an open weight bout..noob, and 207lbs isn't MW..noob
     
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    ... Yeah, I'm not going to bother with this thread.
     
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    Hendo is definitely a legend. The guy probably has the toughest resume of any fighter in history.
     
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    What's your record for asking troll questions? I see the streak is alive and well.
     
  18. VinceArch

    VinceArch Venom in the veins.

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    Fedor, Vitor, Sean and Lyoto aren't on the list yet Gina Carano is?
     
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    Good/embarrassing catch on the missing Fedor!
     
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    You will note I said let me know your additions. It's hard to keep them all in your mind! But yes I'm adding them right now.
     

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