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DIdn't he start slandering them when they became full on "Bernie or bust"-bros? I thought Destiny had a point there

Nobody is really Bernie or bust, it's just about I vote on policies, after you did all your usual dirty tricks, called us Nazis and brown shirts, misogynistic Bernie bros, compared him to the covid, invited a body language specialist to analyse if he's a sexist etc ... it's a little bit easy to say "ok guys get in line and vote for biden now,orange man bad"

You have to give a little bit more.
 
Nobody is really Bernie or bust, it's just about I vote on policies, after you did all your usual dirty tricks, called us Nazis and brown shirts, misogynistic Bernie bros, compared him to the covid, invited a body language specialist to analyse if he's a sexist etc ... it's a little bit easy to say "ok guys get in line and vote for biden now,orange man bad"

You have to give a little bit more.

That's not the point though. If you have to choose between Biden and Trump it should be an easy choice to vote for Biden if you're on the left. The difference between the two in policy is astronomical. To not do so and risk another Trump term is frankly retarded and that is what Destiny was calling them out on.
 
That's not the point though. If you have to choose between Biden and Trump it should be an easy choice to vote for Biden if you're on the left. The difference between the two in policy is astronomical. To not do so and risk another Trump term is frankly retarded and that is what Destiny was calling them out on.

But my dude, voting for the less bad is not the way all people see politics.
Specifically after a disgusting smear campaign, destiny wasn't supporting Bernie and didn't have to take the abuse.
It's easy to call them out on it.
I'm sorry but CNN and MSNBC spent 6 month doing a disgusting propaganda job, on social medias supporters of other candidates told us all the time that we were not real democrats anyway, they still fuck'n blame him for Hillary loss FFS.

It's too easy to put again the responsibility on us now, if you want people votes, win them, you're not entitled to their votes.

(I'm an immigrant from the middle east, 4 more years would impact me, no need to tell me that I don't care about children in cages, thank you)

Edit: Actually maybe it's become I'm an immigrant from the middle east that I don't really see such a difference between both platforms, I survived two Israeli invasions both supported by any american administrations at this time (wasn't there for the third one).

Obama administration fully droned the middle east, didn't close Guantanamo,didn't left irak, passed a law funding Israel even more just at the end of his administration and vetoed every decision against them.

I hardly consider this as a lefty policy.

So for us, it's hard to see the difference I guess.
 
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But my dude, voting for the less bad is not the way all people see politics.
Specifically after a disgusting smear campaign, destiny wasn't supporting Bernie and didn't have to take the abuse.
It's easy to call them out on it.
I'm sorry but CNN and MSNBC spent 6 month doing a disgusting propaganda job, on social medias supporters of other candidates told us all the time that we were not real democrats anyway, they still fuck'n blame him for Hillary loss FFS.

It's too easy to put again the responsibility on us now, if you want people votes, win them, you're not entitled to their votes.

(I'm an immigrant from the middle east, 4 more years would impact me, no need to tell me that I don't care about children in cages, thank you)

Edit: Actually maybe it's become I'm an immigrant from the middle east that I don't really see such a difference between both platforms, I survived two Israeli invasions both supported by any american administrations at this time (wasn't there for the third one).

Obama administration fully droned the middle east, didn't close Guantanamo,didn't left irak, passed a law funding Israel even more just at the end of his administration and vetoed every decision against them.


So for us, it's hard to see the difference I guess.

I couldn't disagree more with you on everything you say.
There's a huge difference between the two and if you can't see that then you deserve to be mocked.
 
I couldn't disagree more with you on everything you say.
There's a huge difference between the two and if you can't see that then you deserve to be mocked.

I deserved to be mocked because I was unlucky enough to be a war survivor, because of democrats and republicans administrations disgusting foreign policies, and so it's a platform I really care about, in my policy choices, got it.

Thanks for not checking at all your privilege, blue maga.
 
Good for you <Fedor23>

Maybe take it for someone who had to pay the consequences of your disastrous foreign policy buddy.

But hey brown lives don't matter, right.

I'm a german living in germany and pretty left on most issues but good try
 
I'm a german living in germany and pretty left on most issues but good try

Germany is still not impacted by american middle eastern policies and it doesn't impact your life personally.

Changes nothing to my point.
 
Germany is still not impacted by american middle eastern policies and it doesn't impact your life personally.

Changes nothing to my point.

I was rooting for Bernie, then he dropped out. Now you have the choice between Biden and Trump. It's going to be one or the other. If you can't see that another Trump term would be far more disastrous than if Biden was elected, then there must be something wrong with you or maybe you are just a crybaby who can't accept reality
 
I was rooting for Bernie, then he dropped out. Now you have the choice between Biden and Trump. It's going to be one or the other. If you can't see that another Trump term would be far more disastrous than if Biden was elected, then there must be something wrong with you or maybe you are just a crybaby who can't accept reality

Lol saying that to a war survivor.
Thanks leftist German to call me a crybaby.

You're a sociopath or you're twelve, I understand why you like so much destiny.

On a disastrous level, where do you put spending one month in the basement of your building, with bombs falling on your city everyday and no water of electricity ?
Continue to enlighten me, please.
 
Lol saying that to a war survivor.
You're a sociopath or you're twelve, I understand why you like so much destiny.

On a disastrous level, where do you put spending one month in the basement of your building, with bombs falling on your city everyday and no water of electricity ?
Continue to enlighten me, please.

Do you think USA's foreign policy will change in a positive way if Trump gets reelected? Do you think it will change for the worse if Biden gets elected? Will it stay the same? Can you even answer these questions honestly or are you going to get your feelings hurt again?
 
Do you think USA's foreign policy will change in a positive way if Trump gets reelected? Do you think it will change for the worse if Biden gets elected? Will it stay the same? Can you even answer these questions honestly or are you going to get your feelings hurt again?

Actually statistically, trump bombed less the middle east than Obama, it's a fucked reality but still.

We can say too, that his evangelist support could possibly bring more harm, and his communication is really racist on these topics.
(Talking about trump here, obviously)

On the other hand, you're again saying to a two times war survivor, that "his feeling is hurt", being a German.
At this point you're just a pos who deserved to be blocked.
So be it.
 
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Actually statistically, trump bombed less the middle east than Obama, it's a fucked reality but still.
On the other hand, you're again saying to a two times war survivor, that "his feeling is hurt", being a German.
At this point you're just a pos who deserved to be blocked.
So be it.

Then go vote for Trump, if you think he's better on the issues most important to you
 
Then go vote for Trump, if you think he's better on the issues most important to you
or we should just apply pressure to the dnc/biden to stop letting Trump outflank them to their left?

are you trying to suggest that a platform/party is take it or leave it and if you don't like it go vote for the other guy? and that supposed democratic institutions (like the democratic party) are not open to democratic input and change?
 
or we should just apply pressure to the dnc/biden to stop letting Trump outflank them to their left?

are you trying to suggest that a platform/party is take it or leave it and if you don't like it go vote for the other guy? and that supposed democratic institutions (like the democratic party) are not open to democratic input and change?

No you should still do that but when it comes time to vote, you should vote for the person closest to your political leaning, even if that's still pretty far away. Trump has already done so much irreversible damage (The appointment of a shit ton of federal judges for example) and he's only going to do more if he gets another 4 years. Is Biden still a shitty establishment dem? Yeah but's he's going to be infinitely better than Trump
 
No you should still do that but when it comes time to vote, you should vote for the person closest to your political leaning, even if that's still pretty far away. Trump has already done so much irreversible damage (The appointment of a shit ton of federal judges for example) and he's only going to do more if he gets another 4 years. Is Biden still a shitty establishment dem? Yeah but's he's going to be infinitely better than Trump
Yeah I don't disagree with anything that you've said here. But you can both vote for Biden and ruthlessly criticize him and the establishment apparatus around him. The pragmatist dems like yourself need to learn to accept that.
 
Yeah I don't disagree with anything that you've said here. But you can both vote for Biden and ruthlessly criticize him and the establishment apparatus around him. The pragmatist dems like yourself need to learn to accept that.

I never said you shouldn't do that. I'm not a pragmatist dem lmao. I just think the Bernie or bust crowd is silly and immature
 
I never said you shouldn't do that. I'm not a pragmatist dem lmao. I just think the Bernie or bust crowd is silly and immature
Silly? Eh, fairly subjective term. Immature? Yeah, possibly. But you should maybe spend more time understanding the frustrations and anger behind the sentiments of the Bernie or Bust crowd. Only 50% of the adult population even participates in our democracy (and thats in the general election, which has the highest participation rates). Tens of millions of people in this country feel forgotten and left behind. They feel that these alleged 'democratic' institutions that are supposed to be promoting their best interests, are outright ignoring them and actively working against their best interests (many of them are). They feel that the system within which they live, is completely unwilling to do a single thing (structurally) to help give them a leg up.

Thousands of people are dying every year because they cannot afford healthcare.
Nearly 2,000,000 people are in prison
We have a half million of our fellow Americans living on the streets
The costs of housing and education are quickly becoming too expensive for even many middle class families to afford.
Our government/military are constantly bombing sovereign nations around the globe, taking hundreds of thousands of innocent lives in the name of our country, and destabilizing global security in the process.
Financial deregulation and wall street recklessness are constantly threatening the economic and financial stability of the country (and the planet, by extension)
The planet is hurtling towards climate/ecological catastrophe (50% of all wildlife dead in 40 years, lifeless oceans by 2050, no more coral reefs within 1-2 decades, sea level rise threatening to displace millions, rain forests burning down) and our government is asleep at the wheel. Even under a democratic president and a receptive EPA, we still could not do ANYTHING of actual substance in addressing climate change.


ALL of these problems, and our government flatly refuses to do anything to address these problems. People are fucking PISSED and you should understand why. When you actually realize the severity of the situation we are in, it gets pretty difficult to just tow the line and just vote for the guy that's less bad than the other guy, but whom you know will absolutely not do anything to address peoples fears and anxieties about the state of things.

What we need right now is a mass protest movement from the pacific to the atlantic oceans. What we need is a re-ignition of the spirit of the 60s to FORCE our leaders and institutions to bow to our demands. The only use that Biden provides to me is knowing that since he's not a complete wack-job narcissist, he just might be willing to make some concessions and pass some progressive policies if he has 1,000,000 activists camped out in DC; whereas Trump is more likely to deploy the national guard and attack them.
 
That's not the point though. If you have to choose between Biden and Trump it should be an easy choice to vote for Biden if you're on the left. The difference between the two in policy is astronomical. To not do so and risk another Trump term is frankly retarded and that is what Destiny was calling them out on.

Obviously, Biden is going to be a lot closer to what a Bernie supporter would want than what Trump is offering. If we have to choose between the 2, then Biden is the only choice.
The problem that the Bernie or bust crew has is that that ignores how we got to the choice of Biden/Trump to begin with. We didn't arrive here by accident. There were a lot of forces that pushed it that way.

Trump is terrible, but if the only goal there is is to defeat Trump, and then business as usual continues after that, then how much is that worth to someone that is policy driven, especially on issues like climate change and healthcare?
If these establishment Democrats think that they own our vote then they never have to address our needs.
It shouldn't be on the voters to "fall in line", it should be up to the politicians to give the voters something to vote for.
Guys like Kulinski are not "Bernie or nothing". I would say most "Bernie bros" arent'. They want Biden to do more than a "Hey jack, vote for me and let's defeat Trump"
 
Destiny took him badly out of context and put words in his mouth in order to slander him. Even Destiny's own audience turned on him when he pulled that shit.



Also, I lost respect for Destiny when I found out he was a literal cuck who "likes to suck dick". He lets other guys fuck his girlfriend and then sucks their dicks. He also looks like a hypocrite because he talked shit about guys his age who date girls that young and then he goes and gets involved in a CUCK relationship with a girl that young. He's like the caricature of what right wingers think of leftists, but of course he's not a real leftist, he's a centrist liberal.



Painful when you can't win a debate against a videotaped opponent. My hopes weren't up when I saw a dude with a stripper's name.
 
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