Learn from a 16 year old blue belt?

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  1. TheHereticJay

    TheHereticJay I scoff at your belt rankings

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    So... there's the Gracie CTCs, right? Well, now you can learn from a 16 year old blue belt in a Gracie CTC in Mississippi! He also offers private lessons!

    And if I'm not mistaken, there's a black belt not very far from where he is.

    http://www.bjjee.com/featured/16-ye...-instructor-of-gracie-academy-in-mississippi/
    And the school's website, with intro by Rener and Ryron... http://graciejiujitsumadison.com/


    What are you thoughts on this and if you were starting would you sign yourself, or your family, up to learn from a child?
     
  2. TheHereticJay

    TheHereticJay I scoff at your belt rankings

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    After doing a little digging, and by digging I mean a few random clicks here and there, I found some prices...

    $130/month for 3 classes a week, in the Combatives course.
    $130/month for 2 classes a week, in the Gracie Bullyproof course.
    $45 for 1/2 hour private lesson with Cantrell, the blue belt instructor.
     
  3. nodferatu

    nodferatu Drilling in the south

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    I can't even. Those prices. Dafuq?
     
  4. fanboysareevil

    fanboysareevil Green Belt

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    I can get hour long privates with guys who have been black belts longer than I've been training for 50 bucks. This is absurd.
     
  5. chunglii

    chunglii No Me Duele Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    hell no
     
  6. crash90

    crash90 Blue Belt

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    What the hell? I pay just a touch more each month for more classes, taught by black belts, and attended by a plethora of upper belts. Then again I live in the burb of a major metro area.

    More baffling are the private lesson prices. $45 bucks will get me a hour long private with a black belt. $90 bucks gets me almost 3 hours based on bulk pricing. This kid is out of his mind but I guess more power to him if anyone falls for this crap.

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    Holy lord Gracie South is something like 15 minutes from this place and feature Reilly FREAKING Bodycomb as an instructor not to mention three legit black belts of which one is also a Judo black belt. Why would you waste your time getting dry humped by some 16 year old internet blue belt when legit (and I would suspect high level) instruction is available?
     
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  7. Allan san

    Allan san Green Belt

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    LOL! As a blue belt, I couldn't imagine trying to charge anyone any amount of money for my teachings that would severely lack all of the important details.
     
  8. mattemate

    mattemate Brown Belt

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    Must be a joke. No one in Mississippi has $45.
     
  9. Gus77

    Gus77 White Belt

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    So you can sign in the blackbelt club program run by a 16 year old blue belt?
    Mindblow!

    I would imagine he could not promote anyone to even blue belt, so maybe promote through HQ.

    Btw, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Madison have a facebook page too.
     
  10. TheHereticJay

    TheHereticJay I scoff at your belt rankings

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    Well, Reilly just moved to the Bay Area of California...so I doubt he's commuting to Mississippi to teach much now ;)

    But yeah, he's right down the street from Gracie South. It must be nice to have parents that can fund your dream to teach jiu jitsu...and he has a nice spot too!
     
  11. crash90

    crash90 Blue Belt

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    I thought that might be the case. Regardless there are what appear to be three legit black belts, including a judo bb, teaching on a daily basis. I am baffled by this whole thing.

    The Gracie CTC looks nicer than alot of legit spots I have trained at.
     
  12. Oshime2

    Oshime2 you were too beautiful for this world

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    I'd pay $45/half hour to not have to listen to a teenage boy wax poetic about Renner and Helio.
     
  13. bjjaz

    bjjaz Got the Rock...Time to Roll

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    Seriously whattt.....
     
  14. DocSooner

    DocSooner Orange Belt

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    LMFAO

    This would have been absurd 15 years ago when there probably wasn't a black belt within a 3 state radius. It is absolutely mind boggling that anyone would consider it when there are legit black belt instructors down the street.

    This is a paid short cut to avoid putting in the work to move through the ranks at a real school.
     
  15. crash90

    crash90 Blue Belt

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    Furthermore, I think this does a disservice to the implied effectiveness of BJJ. I am a 31 year old 160'ish purple belt. Even as a fresh blue 3 years ago I am 99 percent sure I could run shop on a 16 year old internet blue belt. What is a 220 meathead going to think and more likely do to such an "instructor"? I am not advocating that every instructor needs to look like a tough guy and be able to handle every meat head that comes into their gym. However, if we go to the extreme that our 16 year old instructor has shown we run the risk of people writing off BJJ as ineffective without even trying it. Worse, if a few tough guys do come up in the gym and run through our 16 year old friend, or worse the instructor refuses to roll, then the ineffective nature of the art is shown rather than implied.
     
  16. HtomSirveaux

    HtomSirveaux Blue Belt

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    Damn those are cheap. I've never seen a black belt ask for less than 100/hr. I would actually consider getting privates if I could get the prices youre getting
     
  17. Darwinambrosius

    Darwinambrosius Thought you had a friend, boy?

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    I don't know who would go to this guy when there are plenty of other competent schools under legit black belts in that area.
     
  18. Young Turkey

    Young Turkey Green Belt

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    Lol, the community college I used to go to had beginner BJJ classes run by 2-3 blues and a purp. It was basically free
     
  19. The Polish Pounder

    The Polish Pounder Excellence of execution belt Platinum Member

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    This is pretty whack, and I'm typically a Rener/Ryron supporter.

    Running a Gracie Garage, or teaching a kids class at the local karate place would be one thing but to be a full blown "academy" is nuts.

    I've gone to a CTC run by an actual Gracie Academy black belt. Guy was LEO, and was 4-0 in MMA with all subs or something and he charged half that price a month for like 4 days a week. That type of CTC is legit. A place like this though makes me shake my head.
     
  20. sb413197

    sb413197 Red Belt

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    This looks really bad.
     

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