Leaked audio: Who does Trump fear? Big D Bernie Sanders

[VivaRevolution]

They were alive and well back then too, still controlling everything. America had a surge after the war, allowed and controlled by them. And why? Look at America now. the single largest army in the world. Fighting all these wars, influencing the entire world through American 'culture' through music, TV, Movies etc.

And yet over the course of time, we have expanded our economic and legal rights.

That was all apart of their plan?

Maybe these guys aren't so bad then.

War has always been a racket. I agree they seem to have been able to shape public opinion to varying degrees of success over time, but the pendulum always swings back. There is always a backlash where they lose massive amounts of ground.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Look at America now. the single largest army in the world.

The US does not have the single largest army in the world. Even counting the national guard and the army reserves the US army is only one million strong. North Korea's is almost eight million. South Korea's army is over three and a half million. Vietnam's is 5.5 million. China's army is estimated to be around two million as is India's.

The US is a measly seventh in army size, despite having the third largest population.

 

[bobgeese]

To be clear: You were turned down for a loan, but later, after debts had been paid down over time (assuming that you and your wife were paying your debts), and your wife started making more money, you finally qualified for a loan. After buying a house, it became an "asset" that allowed you to take on more debt by buying a second house?

And somehow, it's Trump who made it possible?

You sure?

No,

Somewhere in the late Obama years we tried to buy a house. We were not able to get a loan.

A few years later, in a much better economy, but making about the same money. She was approved.

I don’t know what more you want me to tell you.




I can tell you I remember talk about difficulty obtaining loans several years ago, a quick search confirmed it.

Team Obama to Banks: Issue Home Loans to Riskier Borrowers
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...issue-home-loans-to-riskier-borrowers/274647/

Sorry for the garbage Atlantic article, but I don’t have a Washington Post subscription to get that one. Basically as you can see in the link, banks weren’t giving out loans as easily as they are now.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Neither is a socialist either.

Doesn't seem to stop people from repeating it over and over.

I'm not looking to unilaterally disarm here.

Sooooo.......

Donald Trump is a card carrying KKK member, and wants to lock little black and brown babies in cages.

Ah, so you are engaged in retaliatory lying.

 

[BEER]

No,

Somewhere in the late Obama years we tried to buy a house. We were not able to get a loan.

A few years later, in a much better economy, but making about the same money. She was approved.

I don’t know what more you want me to tell you.




I can tell you I remember talk about difficulty obtaining loans several years ago, a quick search confirmed it.

Team Obama to Banks: Issue Home Loans to Riskier Borrowers
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...issue-home-loans-to-riskier-borrowers/274647/

Sorry for the garbage Atlantic article, but I don’t have a Washington Post subscription to get that one. Basically as you can see in the link, banks weren’t giving out loans as easily as they are now.

If we're talking Trump versus Obama economy, can you point out exactly what Trump and his administration did to eventually allow you to secure a loan?

The economy was getting better during Obama's second turn, and Trump rode the wave and took credit. What specifically did Trump do that allowed you to go from completely unable to attain a bank loan to owning two homes?

And do you think it was a wise financial decision to buy two homes when you can't afford to buy even one a few years ago? I mean, you said the income hasn't really changed.

 

[tonni]

As for this thread a hearty laugh was had....viva at it again

 

[Sketch]

The US does not have the single largest army in the world. Even counting the national guard and the army reserves the US army is only one million strong. North Korea's is almost eight million. South Korea's army is over three and a half million. Vietnam's is 5.5 million. China's army is estimated to be around two million as is India's.

The US is a measly seventh in army size, despite having the third largest population.

Those are peasant armies, fed on rations with incompetent leaders against a coalition of Globalists and European Warriors. Let's not even enter the realm of 'technology'

There is a guy right now, laughing his ass off, talking about a space force. Because they already have one.

 

[bobgeese]

If we're talking Trump versus Obama economy, can you point out exactly what Trump and his administration did to eventually allow you to secure a loan?

The economy was getting better during Obama's second turn, and Trump rode the wave and took credit. What specifically did Trump do that allowed you to go from completely unable to attain a bank loan to owning two homes?

And do you think it was a wise financial decision to buy two homes when you can't afford to buy even one a few years ago? I mean, you said the income hasn't really changed.

A) I shouldn’t even bother responding to you if you were the type that thinks that Trump “rode the wave” and took credit for the Obama economy. Let’s look at the facts. The Dow was flat from July 2014 until election day on election week it was 17,388, we are 10 K higher than that today in less than a single term. You’re just embarrassing yourself by saying Trumps policies had no effect.

B) Yes, I’d rather not share personal details, but it’s family and we’ll be receiving income from the second home. And just this month it became a total yes because my wife received a big promotion. Also, keep in mind, we’re in upstate ny, so housing prices are not expensive.

 

[44nutman]

No,

Somewhere in the late Obama years we tried to buy a house. We were not able to get a loan.

A few years later, in a much better economy, but making about the same money. She was approved.

I don’t know what more you want me to tell you.




I can tell you I remember talk about difficulty obtaining loans several years ago, a quick search confirmed it.

Team Obama to Banks: Issue Home Loans to Riskier Borrowers
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...issue-home-loans-to-riskier-borrowers/274647/

Sorry for the garbage Atlantic article, but I don’t have a Washington Post subscription to get that one. Basically as you can see in the link, banks weren’t giving out loans as easily as they are now.

There was a reason for more difficult loans, because when they eased it, banks crashed and we had to bail them out.
As someone who has been a real estate appraiser for 18 years, when banks were giving out easy loans, people were not paying back their loans. Everyone was refinancing to take out their equity. There were houses that I appraised during the crash that had 3 to 4 mortgages on them. The banks in the 3rd of 4th position had to eat those loans. I did a lot of foreclosures for Wells Fargo. Some right before they kicked the owners out.
I appraised one guys house that was in a lower middle class area. He was bitching up a storm that the bank was taking his house. I shit you not, dude had a Hummer in the driveway, Harley in the garage, and big screens in every room. This was in 2008, when big screens were fucking expensive. That dude took every cent of his equity and spent it on depreciating assets. He had that house for like15 years. Bought it cheap and could have it paid off, but decided it was more important to look like a big shot and live beyond his means. That cost him his house.
So after the housing market fiasco, due to tons of mortgage fraud mostly on applications. Mortgage brokers were filing out the income section for borrowers and there was a ton of liar loans out there. Due to investors getting fucked on mortgages rife with fraud, the loan market tightened up as a reaction to the fraud. Those investors are the ones who get people elected, so they went to the government and was like fix this shit, which they did.
As an appraiser I have seen some shady shit, and those liar loans, are making a comeback.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Exactly. He is a mere globalist looking to siphon more money from the Tax payers (You know who that is)

A globalist who is against free trade and all of the multinational corporations hate him.

 

[bobgeese]

If we're talking Trump versus Obama economy, can you point out exactly what Trump and his administration did to eventually allow you to secure a loan?

The economy was getting better during Obama's second turn, and Trump rode the wave and took credit. What specifically did Trump do that allowed you to go from completely unable to attain a bank loan to owning two homes?

And do you think it was a wise financial decision to buy two homes when you can't afford to buy even one a few years ago? I mean, you said the income hasn't really changed.

With regard to policy changes that influenced lending availability.


Dodd-Frank changes are easing mortgage lender headaches

https://independentbanker.org/2018/10/dodd-frank-changes-are-easing-mortgage-lender-headaches/

For eight years, provisions of the Dodd-Frank Act have made offering home mortgages more difficult and time-consuming. But those rules are changing, creating more opportunity and competition for community banks in the mortgage market.


For community banks, this legislation created a dichotomy in their mortgage business: Some borrowers met the qualified mortgage rule, and others did not. Those in the latter camp, whose income did not allow them to meet the qualified mortgage standard, were often very responsible borrowers.



But with the shift to a more bank-sympathetic administration and Congress after the 2016 election, there has been more focus on changing the qualified mortgage rule, at least to take the bulk of the regulatory pressure off community banks.

 

[bobgeese]

There was a reason for more difficult loans, because when they eased it, banks crashed and we had to bail them out.
As someone who has been a real estate appraiser for 18 years, when banks were giving out easy loans, people were not paying back their loans. Everyone was refinancing to take out their equity. There were houses that I appraised during the crash that had 3 to 4 mortgages on them. The banks in the 3rd of 4th position had to eat those loans. I did a lot of foreclosures for Wells Fargo. Some right before they kicked the owners out.
I appraised one guys house that was in a lower middle class area. He was bitching up a storm that the bank was taking his house. I shit you not, dude had a Hummer in the driveway, Harley in the garage, and big screens in every room. This was in 2008, when big screens were fucking expensive. That dude took every cent of his equity and spent it on depreciating assets. He had that house for like15 years. Bought it cheap and could have it paid off, but decided it was more important to look like a big shot and live beyond his means. That cost him his house.
So after the housing market fiasco, due to tons of mortgage fraud mostly on applications. Mortgage brokers were filing out the income section for borrowers and there was a ton of liar loans out there. Due to investors getting fucked on mortgages rife with fraud, the loan market tightened up as a reaction to the fraud. Those investors are the ones who get people elected, so they went to the government and was like fix this shit, which they did.
As an appraiser I have seen some shady shit, and those liar loans, are making a comeback.

This is absolutely true. Don’t forget the impact of variable interest rate loans.


That doesn’t change the facts. Under Obama, it was hard for the middle class to advance. Under trump, there have been significant changes that effect the middle class, despite liberals claiming the opposite.

 

[all caps]

A globalist who is against free trade and all of the multinational corporations hate him.

Hate to say it but... @Sketch is right

Spoiler

Bernie had to learn his lesson back stage

 

[Sketch]

Hate to say it but... @Sketch is right

Spoiler

Bernie had to learn his lesson back stage

LOL

 

[AlexDB9]

I mean......despite Trump being fat and out of shape he Masvidals the doormat. That’s a bet I’d take and I never bet

 

[AndroidRage]

There was a reason for more difficult loans, because when they eased it, banks crashed and we had to bail them out.
As someone who has been a real estate appraiser for 18 years, when banks were giving out easy loans, people were not paying back their loans. Everyone was refinancing to take out their equity. There were houses that I appraised during the crash that had 3 to 4 mortgages on them. The banks in the 3rd of 4th position had to eat those loans. I did a lot of foreclosures for Wells Fargo. Some right before they kicked the owners out.
I appraised one guys house that was in a lower middle class area. He was bitching up a storm that the bank was taking his house. I shit you not, dude had a Hummer in the driveway, Harley in the garage, and big screens in every room. This was in 2008, when big screens were fucking expensive. That dude took every cent of his equity and spent it on depreciating assets. He had that house for like15 years. Bought it cheap and could have it paid off, but decided it was more important to look like a big shot and live beyond his means. That cost him his house.
So after the housing market fiasco, due to tons of mortgage fraud mostly on applications. Mortgage brokers were filing out the income section for borrowers and there was a ton of liar loans out there. Due to investors getting fucked on mortgages rife with fraud, the loan market tightened up as a reaction to the fraud. Those investors are the ones who get people elected, so they went to the government and was like fix this shit, which they did.
As an appraiser I have seen some shady shit, and those liar loans, are making a comeback.

I read something on this recently. They think it will eventually cause a crash just like in 2008.

 

[AndroidRage]

I mean......despite Trump being fat and out of shape he Masvidals the doormat. That’s a bet I’d take and I never bet

Good thing you never bet. You would easily lose money.

 

[TheGreatA]

Bern is a threat to Trump, although he might be an even bigger threat as a VP, seizing demographics that might otherwise be unmotivated about voting, to a "safer pick".

He is an "all-in" candidate whereas a Joe Biden is probably going to go down with the John Kerry's and Mitt Romney's of the world, forgettable guys who occupied a difficult spot (beating a standing President in a re-election, not many have done it).

Trump is a special case, but you still have to give him pretty decent odds of doing it again.

 

[Utahraptor Ostrommaysi]

LOL at the Trump supporters trying to argue against this, even though Trump himself admitted that Bernie would be his toughest challenger in 2020 and that Hillary might have beaten him in 2016 if she picked Bernie as his VP.
Your boy knows that if Bernie gets the nomination, Trump will be a one-term president.

 

[Happy Man]

LOL at the Trump supporters trying to argue against this, even though Trump himself admitted that Bernie would be his toughest challenger in 2020 and that Hillary might have beaten him in 2016 if she picked Bernie as his VP.
Your boy knows that if Bernie gets the nomination, Trump will be a one-term president.

this is not the same Bernie as pre 2016 Bernie.

the difference between the politics of the 2 men are vast.

you cam thank BLM and the AOC wi g for his new political stances that will make sure he can maybe win a nomination but never the White House

 

[Utahraptor Ostrommaysi]

this is not the same Bernie as pre 2016 Bernie.

the difference between the politics of the 2 men are vast.

you cam thank BLM and the AOC wi g for his new political stances that will make sure he can maybe win a nomination but never the White House

Well apparently Trump himself disagrees with you. You might want to get used to saying the phrase "President Sanders" I think you'll find that it rolls off the tongue quite nicely actually.