Lead Straight Right = South Paw Kryptonite

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I've been training forever now and I still get caught with this punch more often then any other. I know people love to throw it against lefty's (which I am) because it works, so I don't feel too bad about it. I try slipping it, catching it, parry, block, whatever, but it seems I get caught because I don't see it comming, not because I fail to defend against it when I see it comming. Its nothing I will be losing sleep over, I just thought I'd bring it up since there aint a lot going on in the striking forum today.

Anyway, why exactly does it work so well on us (lefty's)? What is the best defense for it? Maybe there is something in particular I need to work on. My instructor (and every instructor before him too) basically said to keep working on the things I already do and not to let it get to me if I get caught from time to time because it just happens to south paws if you throw lead straight rights at them. But no one has been able to give me a straight answer as to why it works so well on us! Anybody with some insight would be awesome! I know you know King Kabuki...lay some knowledge on me brudah!
 
Yes I love throwing right straight-left hook's on southpaws. And the reason it lands is most likely based on how defensive/offensive you are. When I boxed I like to use peek-a-boo style, and there was a southpaw who did the same. Who I could almost never land a right hand on.
 
It works both ways you know. Lefties can use the straight left effectively against righties!
 
I fight ambidexterous and find that the straight left cross against an orthodox guy is a very awesome weapon...I also find that following up with a hook is great.
I'd suggest working on loosening up your right hook. Get it nice and wide and have your mitt guy call it out randomly with the rest of the routines you do.

When the guy is shooting his cross out he is moving more or less to your right at least to open up and get between your guard...if you move with him and find your range with that looping right lead hook, you'll find your mark...of course his left hook is there as well!
 
Don't southpaws move right and throw the lead right hook?

I've never seen a southpaw move left into a righty's power punch.
 
IkkussSpikkuss said:
I've been training forever now and I still get caught with this punch more often then any other. I know people love to throw it against lefty's (which I am) because it works, so I don't feel too bad about it. I try slipping it, catching it, parry, block, whatever, but it seems I get caught because I don't see it comming, not because I fail to defend against it when I see it comming. Its nothing I will be losing sleep over, I just thought I'd bring it up since there aint a lot going on in the striking forum today.

Anyway, why exactly does it work so well on us (lefty's)? What is the best defense for it? Maybe there is something in particular I need to work on. My instructor (and every instructor before him too) basically said to keep working on the things I already do and not to let it get to me if I get caught from time to time because it just happens to south paws if you throw lead straight rights at them. But no one has been able to give me a straight answer as to why it works so well on us! Anybody with some insight would be awesome! I know you know King Kabuki...lay some knowledge on me brudah!
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Maybe I am misunderstanding you....but I was taught that when two fighters are mirrored(doesn't matter who is southpaw and who is orthodox), the fighter who has his lead foot on the outside of the other fighter always has the advantage during an excange. Another thing is to circle away from the power hand as much as possible.

This is the reason why the left cross works good against an orthodox fighter and the right cross works well when used against a southpaw(with proper setup).
 
Rudy Richter said:
Maybe I am misunderstanding you....but I was taught that when two fighters are mirrored(doesn't matter who is southpaw and who is orthodox), the fighter who has his lead foot on the outside of the other fighter always has the advantage during an excange. Another thing is to circle away from the power hand as much as possible.

This is the reason why the left cross works good against an orthodox fighter and the right cross works well when used against a southpaw(with proper setup).
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agreed there.

its always about positioning when its a mirror'd fight.


whoever takes that angling initiative typically wins.

examples?

franklin vs. the rock
the recent gonzaga vs. crocop

trying to work the other way i just opening up a flat face asking to get driven in by a cross
 
Sorry to hijack the thread, but

When would it be appropriate for a southpaw to circle or slip to his left (their right)? Is it a absolute no no? Or is there an advantage to doing it? Crocop was circling to his left alot in the fight, then he got kicked in the head..im sad.
 
fightingrabbit said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, but

When would it be appropriate for a southpaw to circle or slip to his left (their right)? Is it a absolute no no? Or is there an advantage to doing it? Crocop was circling to his left alot in the fight, then he got kicked in the head..im sad.
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i think u answered your own question.

u wouldn't wanna circle, but when the mirror'd opponent squares up, you can stop circling (which in relative terms means you circle the wrong way) ... it opens up the opponent for that famous cross -- which is what we're talking about.
 
fightingrabbit said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, but

When would it be appropriate for a southpaw to circle or slip to his left (their right)? Is it a absolute no no? Or is there an advantage to doing it? Crocop was circling to his left alot in the fight, then he got kicked in the head..im sad.
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Yeah Crocop's been doing that for a while and it is a big big nono for southpaws. I don't know why he does it but he has for a while. In the Gonzaga fight he never kept his lead foot on the outside. Oh well, who am I to tell him how to fight. As for the poster that asked about a southpaw slipping to the left I would imagine you could slip like that off a righties cross and throw a body shot, like slip and come back with a left hook to the body. Maybe followed by a right hook up top.
 
Crocop moves to his left because he's trying to target his rear left kick to the head. Righties typically move to the left so Crocop has to move left as well to hunt for the opponent's head. Remember, their stances are mirrored.

In boxing, southpaws tend to move right. But it's good to occasionally take a quick step left to set up a straight left down the pipe. I like to start the move with a head fake or a pull back after the opponent has thrown a jab or straight. You don't want to be moving predictably all the time. Mix it up and use broken rhythm. Circle right, move left, back to right, etc.
 
One of my favorite boxing books is by Joe Frazier(Box like the pros). He said the way to fight a southpaw is:

1) Keep lead foot outside of his when fighting at a distance(like I mentioned).

2) Volume punching.

3) Inside fighting(if you are good at it).
 
a right uppercut works very well against a southpaw but an uppercut into the ribs.
 
The motion of the punch gives the south-paw no possibility to counter when slipping under the right punch.
 
repetitio said:
The motion of the punch gives the south-paw no possibility to counter when slipping under the right punch.
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what do you mean by this you nut? do you mean that if i as a southpaw slipped left to avoid a straight right, that i would be in no position to counter?
 
southpaw kryptonite?

i have always heard the opposite
southpaws can see the right straight coming from a mile away





if he got a good right straight:

always, keep your left guard higher
learn to step in and use the lead stiff arm to block his shoulder and fire your own straight - hook
or to circle right, when he fires, step left and fire your own left straight
there are many ways, if you really box for yrs then you should know this
just gotta find what works for you
 
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